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date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:52:20 -0500,
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Re: Installing Fonts
Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
> I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
> someone there might have some ideas.
>
"Mary Ann" wrote in message
news:63B0EBB3-6977-4F78-B220-91D94B721E89@microsoft.com...
> I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
> I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
> File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
> location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
> The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.
If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.
If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
> Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
> the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
> I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
> I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
> than it is specific to Word but I couldnt find a
> Windows discussion group.
- Character
date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:36:35 GMT
author: Character e
Re: Installing Fonts
Re browsing to the "correct location"
I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
browsing to that location.
If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
convert them
"Character" wrote:
> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
>
> > Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
> > I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
> > someone there might have some ideas.
> >
>
> "Mary Ann" wrote in message
> news:63B0EBB3-6977-4F78-B220-91D94B721E89@microsoft.com...
> > I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
> > I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
> > File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
> > location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
>
> By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
>
> > The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
>
> This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
> Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
> rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
> extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
> fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
> copy the data fork.
>
> If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
> conversion anyway.
>
> If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
> process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
>
> > Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
> > the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
> > I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
> > I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
> > than it is specific to Word but I couldnât find a
> > Windows discussion group.
>
> - Character
>
date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:38:01 -0700
author: Mary Ann
Re: Installing Fonts
On the question of font conversion from Mac to PC:
Try a Google or similar search for CrossFont or TransType.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"Mary Ann" wrote in message
news:780C6CFB-D2AB-442D-ACC1-B199195D7AB8@microsoft.com...
> Re browsing to the "correct location"
>
> I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files
> were
> and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and
> then
> browsing to that location.
>
> If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
> convert them
>
> "Character" wrote:
>
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
>>
>> > Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not
>> > Word, but
>> > I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in
>> > hopes that
>> > someone there might have some ideas.
>> >
>>
>> "Mary Ann" wrote in message
>> news:63B0EBB3-6977-4F78-B220-91D94B721E89@microsoft.com...
>> > I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
>> > I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
>> > File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
>> > location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
>>
>> By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
>>
>> > The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
>>
>> This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
>> Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
>> rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
>> extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
>> fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
>> copy the data fork.
>>
>> If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
>> conversion anyway.
>>
>> If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
>> process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
>>
>> > Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
>> > the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
>> > I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
>> > I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
>> > than it is specific to Word but I couldnât find a
>> > Windows discussion group.
>>
>> - Character
>>
date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:00:24 -0300
author: Tom Ferguson
Re: Installing Fonts
Mary Ann wrote:
> Re browsing to the "correct location"
>
> I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
> and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
> browsing to that location.
>
> If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
> convert them
If they're from a newer mac, if they're Truetype fonts they might be
usable directly; if they're Opentype fonts they WILL be usable.
If they're Type 1 fonts, they must be converted.
If they're truetype, there's a simple free conversion program,
TTConvert or TTConverter available that runs on the mac. I don't know
of an equivalent on the pc side.
There's also a very old free dos command line program, Refont, that
does a barely adequate job and it's non-free windows (3.1!)
equivalent, WRefont.
Current conversion programs that run on the PC include Crossfont (from
ASY) and TransType (from Fontlab).
Any given font is subject to licensing restrictions that may or may
not allow the transfer of fonts or their conversion.
- Character
>
> "Character" wrote:
>
>
>>Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
>>>I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
>>>someone there might have some ideas.
>>>
>>
>>"Mary Ann" wrote in message
>>news:63B0EBB3-6977-4F78-B220-91D94B721E89@microsoft.com...
>> > I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
>> > I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
>> > File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
>> > location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
>>
>>By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
>>
>> > The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
>>
>>This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
>>Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
>>rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
>>extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
>>fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
>>copy the data fork.
>>
>>If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
>>conversion anyway.
>>
>>If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
>>process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
>>
>> > Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
>> > the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
>> > I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
>> > I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
>> > than it is specific to Word but I couldnt find a
>> > Windows discussion group.
>>
>> - Character
>>
date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:07:22 GMT
author: Character e
Re: Installing Fonts
Thank you
Mary Ann
"Tom Ferguson" wrote:
> On the question of font conversion from Mac to PC:
>
> Try a Google or similar search for CrossFont or TransType.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Mary Ann" wrote in message
> news:780C6CFB-D2AB-442D-ACC1-B199195D7AB8@microsoft.com...
> > Re browsing to the "correct location"
> >
> > I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files
> > were
> > and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and
> > then
> > browsing to that location.
> >
> > If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
> > convert them
> >
> > "Character" wrote:
> >
> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not
> >> > Word, but
> >> > I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in
> >> > hopes that
> >> > someone there might have some ideas.
> >> >
> >>
> >> "Mary Ann" wrote in message
> >> news:63B0EBB3-6977-4F78-B220-91D94B721E89@microsoft.com...
> >> > I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
> >> > I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
> >> > File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
> >> > location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
> >>
> >> By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
> >>
> >> > The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
> >>
> >> This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
> >> Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
> >> rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
> >> extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
> >> fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
> >> copy the data fork.
> >>
> >> If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
> >> conversion anyway.
> >>
> >> If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
> >> process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
> >>
> >> > Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
> >> > the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
> >> > I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
> >> > I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
> >> > than it is specific to Word but I couldnât find a
> >> > Windows discussion group.
> >>
> >> - Character
> >>
>
date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:58:02 -0700
author: Mary Ann
Re: Installing Fonts
Thank you
Mary Ann
"Character" wrote:
> Mary Ann wrote:
>
> > Re browsing to the "correct location"
> >
> > I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
> > and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
> > browsing to that location.
> >
> > If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
> > convert them
> If they're from a newer mac, if they're Truetype fonts they might be
> usable directly; if they're Opentype fonts they WILL be usable.
>
> If they're Type 1 fonts, they must be converted.
>
> If they're truetype, there's a simple free conversion program,
> TTConvert or TTConverter available that runs on the mac. I don't know
> of an equivalent on the pc side.
>
> There's also a very old free dos command line program, Refont, that
> does a barely adequate job and it's non-free windows (3.1!)
> equivalent, WRefont.
>
> Current conversion programs that run on the PC include Crossfont (from
> ASY) and TransType (from Fontlab).
>
> Any given font is subject to licensing restrictions that may or may
> not allow the transfer of fonts or their conversion.
>
> - Character
>
>
>
> >
> > "Character" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
> >>>I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
> >>>someone there might have some ideas.
> >>>
> >>
> >>"Mary Ann" wrote in message
> >>news:63B0EBB3-6977-4F78-B220-91D94B721E89@microsoft.com...
> >> > I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
> >> > I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
> >> > File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
> >> > location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
> >>
> >>By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
> >>
> >> > The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
> >>
> >>This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
> >>Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
> >>rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
> >>extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
> >>fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
> >>copy the data fork.
> >>
> >>If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
> >>conversion anyway.
> >>
> >>If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
> >>process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
> >>
> >> > Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
> >> > the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
> >> > I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
> >> > I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
> >> > than it is specific to Word but I couldnât find a
> >> > Windows discussion group.
> >>
> >> - Character
> >>
>
date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:58:03 -0700
author: Mary Ann
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