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date: 23 Feb 2007 17:36:42 -0800,
group: microsoft.public.word.printingfonts
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Re: Microsoft Word Embedded Font
Jobbes wrote:
> I've tried searching for a similar answer from this NG, but I couldn't
> find one.
>
> I am currently doing a project for school. Basically I'm trying to
> rasterize to ascii glyphs taken from a truetype font file. I've been
> doing some tests using Word documents and everything was going well
> until I tried printing a word document sent by my friend to me having
> embedded fonts.
>
> I don't have the font in my machine, so I wouldn't know where to get
> the font metrics when printing a microsoft word document. I also
> encountered this for Adobe acrobat, but I was able to get the
> information from the %windir%/TMP folder.
Do you mean the metrics or the outlines themselves?
> Any information on where Microsoft Word places a temporary font file,
> if ever it does, is highly appreciated. Thank You.
It doesn't. Embedded fonts in MS Office products are encrypted and
cannot be extracted. They're not even activated except for the
document that contains them. Incidentally; in Word 97 and earlier, if
the embedding flag was "installable" and the font wasn't already
installed, Word would install it right then and there! That loophole
has been tightly closed in more recent versions.
Adobe Acrobat Reader hasn't put embedded fonts into the temp directory
since Version 3.1 (and it's now up to Version 8). And even then, for
Type 1 fonts, only the font outlines (equivalent to the .pfb file)
were there. Font metrics (the .pfm file) aren't even embedded in pdf
documents in the first place. I'm not sure whether the font metrics
are included in embedded Truetypes.
I'm not sure what you mean by "rasterize to ASCII". As a phrase, it
doesn't make much sense.
- Character
date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:57:06 GMT
author: Character e
Re: Microsoft Word Embedded Font
Hi Character,
> Do you mean the metrics or the outlines themselves?
Particularly the TTF font tables (i.e. name, glyf, etc. ).
> It doesn't. Embedded fonts in MS Office products are encrypted and
> cannot be extracted. They're not even activated except for the
> document that contains them. Incidentally; in Word 97 and earlier, if
> the embedding flag was "installable" and the font wasn't already
> installed, Word would install it right then and there! That loophole
> has been tightly closed in more recent versions.
If this is the case, then the only way to extract the font tables is
by using the WinApi GetFontData?
> Adobe Acrobat Reader hasn't put embedded fonts into the temp directory
> since Version 3.1 (and it's now up to Version 8). And even then, for
> Type 1 fonts, only the font outlines (equivalent to the .pfb file)
> were there. Font metrics (the .pfm file) aren't even embedded in pdf
> documents in the first place. I'm not sure whether the font metrics
> are included in embedded Truetypes.
Hmmm. I've tried printing a PDF file and I saw a file Z@R49.tmp
created in the TMP folder. I tried using the MS utility TTFDump on it
and I was able to extract the different font tables. I'm using Acrobat
Reader 7.0, btw.
> I'm not sure what you mean by "rasterize to ASCII". As a phrase, it
> doesn't make much sense.
Oh..sorry If I wasn't making any sense. All I wanted to say that I
wanted to display in ASCII a glyph outline.
ex.
Letter A
*
* *
* * * * *
* *
* *
date: 23 Feb 2007 18:08:59 -0800
author: Jobbes
Re: Microsoft Word Embedded Font
Jobbes wrote:
> Hi Character,
>
>
>>Do you mean the metrics or the outlines themselves?
>
>
> Particularly the TTF font tables (i.e. name, glyf, etc. ).
OK. That's not the FontMetrics, which has a very specific definition,
although some of the tables include font metric data.
>>It doesn't. Embedded fonts in MS Office products are encrypted and
>>cannot be extracted. They're not even activated except for the
>>document that contains them. Incidentally; in Word 97 and earlier, if
>>the embedding flag was "installable" and the font wasn't already
>>installed, Word would install it right then and there! That loophole
>>has been tightly closed in more recent versions.
>
>
> If this is the case, then the only way to extract the font tables is
> by using the WinApi GetFontData?
You've now gotten way beyond me! But where would you get the FontData
from if you can't grab the font file itself? My guess is that the font
is somewhere in ram, but never committed to a hard drive except
possibly in the page file, where nothing is accessible anyway.
>>Adobe Acrobat Reader hasn't put embedded fonts into the temp directory
>>since Version 3.1 (and it's now up to Version 8). And even then, for
>>Type 1 fonts, only the font outlines (equivalent to the .pfb file)
>>were there. Font metrics (the .pfm file) aren't even embedded in pdf
>>documents in the first place. I'm not sure whether the font metrics
>>are included in embedded Truetypes.
>
>
> Hmmm. I've tried printing a PDF file and I saw a file Z@R49.tmp
> created in the TMP folder. I tried using the MS utility TTFDump on it
> and I was able to extract the different font tables. I'm using Acrobat
> Reader 7.0, btw.
That's intriguing! Will have to play with that. I just tried, but it
must have disappeared too quickly
>>I'm not sure what you mean by "rasterize to ASCII". As a phrase, it
>>doesn't make much sense.
>
>
> Oh..sorry If I wasn't making any sense. All I wanted to say that I
> wanted to display in ASCII a glyph outline.
Ahh... I see what you mean. That's a (common) mis-use of the word
ASCII, which is the American Standard Code for Information Interchange
.... it's not a synonym for plain text.
>
> ex.
> Letter A
>
> *
> * *
> * * * * *
> * *
> * *
>
---- Character
date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:56:38 GMT
author: Character e
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