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date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:50:34 -0500,
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Re: Symbols change between computers
When you create text in a document, each character is replaced by code
which is then stored. When you open the document, the system maps each
code to a glyph/character and renders it to the screen. The details of
that are handled by the operating system's Graphics Device Interface, the
application, and the printer driver interacting.
Now, to "cut to the chase".
I suspect the original document was created in Word Perfect.
Documents created in Word Perfect use a different font for rendering the
degree sign (and other symbols) than the text font. It uses a particular
"Symbol" font. Symbol fonts use non-standard encoding. The font they use
encodes 'degree' to the same code as text fonts use for upper case B.
Now, depending on system settings and font availability, the system used
to open and view the file might substitute fonts. That is apparently what
is happening this case.
Once cure is to delete the offending character and insert the degree
symbol using Alt 0186 (on the key pad).
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"Mary Gudobba" wrote in message
news:OTLSMLTSGHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
|I have a Word 2000 document that is a legal description which contains
the
| symbol for a degree symbol. The symbol appears normally on one
computer but
| displays as a "B" on another computer. Both computers have the same
version
| of Word installed, both running Windows XP, both have the same
printers.
| The font is Times New Roman, which is installed on both computers.
There is
| no direct formatting applied, but if I copy the text with the degree
symbol
| showing and paste it as plain text, I get a capital B - even in the
same
| document. Can anybody explain this?
|
|
date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:54:04 -0400
author: Thomas Ferguson
Re: Symbols change between computers
Like Tom and Charles, I immediately jumped to a WP origin as an explanation,
but when it didn't appear that there was a degree symbol in the WP
Typographic Symbols font (with which I've had the most experience in these
problems), I discarded that theory. I know longer have WP Math A installed,
but if you're seeing some indications that this font is implicated, note the
ASCII code for a degree symbol in that font and see if it is the same as for
B in TNR (66).
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Mary Gudobba" wrote in message
news:uZ5uBjUSGHA.196@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> While we do have WordPerfect installed (on both machines) and have had
> trouble with the WP typographic symbols in the past, this is not the case
> this time. The document was recently created in Word 2000. With other WP
> typographic symbol problems, when you highlight the symbol you see the
font
> is WP TS, but this is not the case. In this document when the symbol is
> highlighted it shows as Times New Roman.
> As a test I took a degree symbol from WordPerfect and pasted it into word
> and highlighted the symbol. The font shows as WP MathA. I'm stumped and
we
> really need to find out why this is happening. We suddenly have to check
> legal descriptions after they are printed just to make sure the degree
> symbol didn't change.
>
>
> "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
> news:Oa2$pRUSGHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Any chance this is a document that was converted from Word Perfect?
> > --
> > Charles Kenyon
> >
> > Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
> >
> > Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> > Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
> >
> > See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> > --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> > This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> > and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> > from my ignorance and your wisdom.
> >
> >
> > "Mary Gudobba" wrote in message
> > news:OTLSMLTSGHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>I have a Word 2000 document that is a legal description which contains
the
> >>symbol for a degree symbol. The symbol appears normally on one computer
> >>but displays as a "B" on another computer. Both computers have the same
> >>version of Word installed, both running Windows XP, both have the same
> >>printers. The font is Times New Roman, which is installed on both
> >>computers. There is no direct formatting applied, but if I copy the
text
> >>with the degree symbol showing and paste it as plain text, I get a
capital
> >>B - even in the same document. Can anybody explain this?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:21:15 -0600
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Symbols change between computers
On a machine on which this happens, when this is happening, navigate to
Tools Options Compatibility Font Substitution, is there anything
listed? If so, what?
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"Mary Gudobba" wrote in message
news:uZ5uBjUSGHA.196@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| While we do have WordPerfect installed (on both machines) and have had
| trouble with the WP typographic symbols in the past, this is not the
case
| this time. The document was recently created in Word 2000. With other
WP
| typographic symbol problems, when you highlight the symbol you see the
font
| is WP TS, but this is not the case. In this document when the symbol
is
| highlighted it shows as Times New Roman.
| As a test I took a degree symbol from WordPerfect and pasted it into
word
| and highlighted the symbol. The font shows as WP MathA. I'm stumped
and we
| really need to find out why this is happening. We suddenly have to
check
| legal descriptions after they are printed just to make sure the degree
| symbol didn't change.
|
|
| "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
| news:Oa2$pRUSGHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > Any chance this is a document that was converted from Word Perfect?
| > --
| > Charles Kenyon
| >
| > Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
| >
| > Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
| > Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
| >
| > See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
| > --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
| > This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
| > and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
| > from my ignorance and your wisdom.
| >
| >
| > "Mary Gudobba" wrote in message
| > news:OTLSMLTSGHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| >>I have a Word 2000 document that is a legal description which
contains the
| >>symbol for a degree symbol. The symbol appears normally on one
computer
| >>but displays as a "B" on another computer. Both computers have the
same
| >>version of Word installed, both running Windows XP, both have the
same
| >>printers. The font is Times New Roman, which is installed on both
| >>computers. There is no direct formatting applied, but if I copy the
text
| >>with the degree symbol showing and paste it as plain text, I get a
capital
| >>B - even in the same document. Can anybody explain this?
| >>
| >
| >
|
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date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:48:16 -0400
author: Thomas Ferguson
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