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date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:15:59 -0800,
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Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
Also,
a.. If you know the character code for a Unicode character, you do not
need to open the Symbol dialog box. Type the Unicode hexadecimal
character code in the document, and then press ALT+X.
Unicode character code for the section symbol is 00A7.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
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| Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:49:25 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
| > How do I enter 00A7 when I'm using Word 2000?
|
| 00A7 hex = 0167 decimal.
|
| Press and hold the Alt key, press the 0 1 6 7 keys in sequence,
| release the Alt key.
|
| You have to use the numeric keypad (not the row above the alpha
| keyboard), and NumLock must be on.
|
| --
| Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
| http://OakRoadSystems.com/
date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:47:11 -0400
author: Thomas Ferguson
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
But Alt+X doesn't work in Word 2000, does it?
--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Thomas Ferguson" wrote in message
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> Also,
>
> a.. If you know the character code for a Unicode character, you do not
> need to open the Symbol dialog box. Type the Unicode hexadecimal
> character code in the document, and then press ALT+X.
>
> Unicode character code for the section symbol is 00A7.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e776ba8873c724198a1ca@news.individual.net...
> | Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:49:25 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
> | > How do I enter 00A7 when I'm using Word 2000?
> |
> | 00A7 hex = 0167 decimal.
> |
> | Press and hold the Alt key, press the 0 1 6 7 keys in sequence,
> | release the Alt key.
> |
> | You have to use the numeric keypad (not the row above the alpha
> | keyboard), and NumLock must be on.
> |
> | --
> | Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> | http://OakRoadSystems.com/
>
>
date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:13:55 -0600
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
Very good point. Only works with Word XP and 2003.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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| But Alt+X doesn't work in Word 2000, does it?
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "Thomas Ferguson" wrote in message
| news:uMLUXehQGHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > Also,
| >
| > a.. If you know the character code for a Unicode character, you do
not
| > need to open the Symbol dialog box. Type the Unicode hexadecimal
| > character code in the document, and then press ALT+X.
| >
| > Unicode character code for the section symbol is 00A7.
| >
| > Tom
| > MSMVP
| > Windows Shell/User
| >
| >
| > "Stan Brown" wrote in message
| > news:MPG.1e776ba8873c724198a1ca@news.individual.net...
| > | Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:49:25 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
| > | > How do I enter 00A7 when I'm using Word 2000?
| > |
| > | 00A7 hex = 0167 decimal.
| > |
| > | Press and hold the Alt key, press the 0 1 6 7 keys in sequence,
| > | release the Alt key.
| > |
| > | You have to use the numeric keypad (not the row above the alpha
| > | keyboard), and NumLock must be on.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
| > | http://OakRoadSystems.com/
| >
| >
|
date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:11:08 -0400
author: Thomas Ferguson
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
But Alt+0167 will work Windows-wide, in any version.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Thomas Ferguson" wrote in message
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> Very good point. Only works with Word XP and 2003.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
> news:OeWpyXiQGHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | But Alt+X doesn't work in Word 2000, does it?
> |
> | --
> | Suzanne S. Barnhill
> | Microsoft MVP (Word)
> | Words into Type
> | Fairhope, Alabama USA
> | Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> | Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> newsgroup so
> | all may benefit.
> |
> | "Thomas Ferguson" wrote in message
> | news:uMLUXehQGHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > Also,
> | >
> | > a.. If you know the character code for a Unicode character, you do
> not
> | > need to open the Symbol dialog box. Type the Unicode hexadecimal
> | > character code in the document, and then press ALT+X.
> | >
> | > Unicode character code for the section symbol is 00A7.
> | >
> | > Tom
> | > MSMVP
> | > Windows Shell/User
> | >
> | >
> | > "Stan Brown" wrote in message
> | > news:MPG.1e776ba8873c724198a1ca@news.individual.net...
> | > | Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:49:25 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
> | > | > How do I enter 00A7 when I'm using Word 2000?
> | > |
> | > | 00A7 hex = 0167 decimal.
> | > |
> | > | Press and hold the Alt key, press the 0 1 6 7 keys in sequence,
> | > | release the Alt key.
> | > |
> | > | You have to use the numeric keypad (not the row above the alpha
> | > | keyboard), and NumLock must be on.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> | > | http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:41:00 -0600
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
Alt-X, Alt+0167 -- whatever! But I still only get a schwa. There is
NO section symbol. I'm probably using an older version of Century
Schoolbook.
So back to my original question -- can I somehow edit the font to
add a section symbol? Is there some kind of a unicode editor thingy
with XP?
Or perhaps one of you would like to lend me a section symbol;
I'll trade a schwa.
<*((((><{
Fishy@Ocean.Net
In the last exciting episode on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:01:58 -0400,
"Thomas Ferguson" wrote:
>Ok. Uncle. Uncle.
>
>Tom
>MSMVP
>Windows Shell/User
>
>
>"Stan Brown" wrote in message
>news:MPG.1e781c7f5a09786f98a1e0@news.individual.net...
>| Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:41:00 -0600 from Suzanne S. Barnhill
>| :
>| > But Alt+0167 will work Windows-wide, in any version.
>|
>| Which is why I suggested it and not the Alt-X business. :-)
>|
>| --
>| Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
>| http://OakRoadSystems.com/
>
date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:29:13 -0800
author: *((({
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
A schwa is not a standard ANSI character (in the 32-255 range), so either
your font has already been modified, or you have a special phonetic version
of Century Schoolbook.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
"<*(((><{" wrote in message
news:3s8t02t1s63ssggq63aqhhkbogqmqht7d6@4ax.com...
> Alt-X, Alt+0167 -- whatever! But I still only get a schwa. There is
> NO section symbol. I'm probably using an older version of Century
> Schoolbook.
>
> So back to my original question -- can I somehow edit the font to
> add a section symbol? Is there some kind of a unicode editor thingy
> with XP?
>
> Or perhaps one of you would like to lend me a section symbol;
> I'll trade a schwa.
>
> <*((((><{
> Fishy@Ocean.Net
>
> In the last exciting episode on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:01:58 -0400,
> "Thomas Ferguson" wrote:
>
> >Ok. Uncle. Uncle.
> >
> >Tom
> >MSMVP
> >Windows Shell/User
> >
> >
> >"Stan Brown" wrote in message
> >news:MPG.1e781c7f5a09786f98a1e0@news.individual.net...
> >| Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:41:00 -0600 from Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >| :
> >| > But Alt+0167 will work Windows-wide, in any version.
> >|
> >| Which is why I suggested it and not the Alt-X business. :-)
> >|
> >| --
> >| Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> >| http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> >
>
date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:02:10 -0600
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
I am at a loss to understand or explain the cause of the problem you
report. However, leaving that aside and actually answering your original
question (at long last [;-)]).
There is the little-known "Private Character Editor". To access it, click
the desktop Start button; then click Run and type "eudcedit" (omit the
quotes) in the slot. There is a decent help file for it accessible in the
usual way.
Of course, you have recourse to various font editors, e.g. FontLab.
And, yes, I'm still very puzzled over the problem's causes. I have
checked various possibilities and tested with several different Word
versions. The only idea I can offer, and have not thoroughly
investigated, is roughly parallel to Suzanne's thought-the font you are
using might have a non-standard encoding: some code points have had other
glyphs mapped rather than standard ANSI mapping.
Do you experience the same problem when you use other fonts, e.g. Times
New Roman or Arial? Do you have the problem with PostScript,TrueType and
Open Type?
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"<*(((><{" wrote in message
news:3s8t02t1s63ssggq63aqhhkbogqmqht7d6@4ax.com...
| Alt-X, Alt+0167 -- whatever! But I still only get a schwa. There is
| NO section symbol. I'm probably using an older version of Century
| Schoolbook.
|
| So back to my original question -- can I somehow edit the font to
| add a section symbol? Is there some kind of a unicode editor thingy
| with XP?
|
| Or perhaps one of you would like to lend me a section symbol;
| I'll trade a schwa.
|
| <*((((><{
| Fishy@Ocean.Net
|
| In the last exciting episode on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:01:58 -0400,
| "Thomas Ferguson" wrote:
|
| >Ok. Uncle. Uncle.
| >
| >Tom
| >MSMVP
| >Windows Shell/User
| >
| >
| >"Stan Brown" wrote in message
| >news:MPG.1e781c7f5a09786f98a1e0@news.individual.net...
| >| Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:41:00 -0600 from Suzanne S. Barnhill
| >| :
| >| > But Alt+0167 will work Windows-wide, in any version.
| >|
| >| Which is why I suggested it and not the Alt-X business. :-)
| >|
| >| --
| >| Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
| >| http://OakRoadSystems.com/
| >
|
date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:58:36 -0400
author: Thomas Ferguson
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
According to
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FID=53&FNAME=Century+Schoolbook&FVER=2.35,
the Century Schoolbook family was/is supplied with Access 97 SR2, Creative
Writer 2, Office 2000 Premium, Office 4.3 Professional, Office 97 Small
Business Edition SR2, Office 97 SR1a, Office Professional Edition 2003,
PhotoDraw 2000, Picture It! 98, Publisher 2000, Publisher 97, Publisher 98,
and TrueType Font Pack, so if you have the CDs for any of those, you should
be able to reintall it.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
"<*(((><{" wrote in message
news:lhmv02pc6ameqds9q0oo1d2kfd3fsrpl17@4ax.com...
> Hi people,
>
> I'm feeling a bit guilty. I recall now, dimly, that about 10
> years ago I hacked a font to get it to display some special characters
> used in an American Indian language I was working on. It was just so
> I could get good copy to make books.
> Ahem -- it seems I must have hacked my Century Schoolbook. :-(
> Too bad I didn't give it another name -- Wasco Century Schoolbook
> would have been appropriate.
> I have no idea how I did it, or how to rename the font for just
> those purposes. Perhaps I'll need to pack up this font and save it
> someplace special, and dig out a recent version of Century Schoolbook.
> Would it be available on MS's site? Or in what original program
> CD should I look to find the original version with the section symbol?
>
> <*((((><{
> Fishy@Ocean.Net
>
> In the last exciting episode on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:01:46 -0500, Stan
> Brown wrote:
>
> >Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:29:13 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
> >> So back to my original question -- can I somehow edit the font to
> >> add a section symbol?
> >
> >Theoretically yes. But for all practical purposes the answer is "No".
> >
> >Someone suggested you do Insert:: Symbol. What do you see when you
> >try that?
>
date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:28:49 -0600
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
Try here:
https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=697a2c2b-9eff-4d4c-8655-4da3acd8aa16&displaylang=en
The family is on the Office 2000 CD. If you have a version with
Publisher, It is on the same CD as Publisher. There are the usual four
files. The naming scheme is idiosyncratic:
censcbk.ttf regular or Roman
schlbkb.ttf bold
schlbkbi.ttf bold Italic
schlbki.ttf Italic
On my CD set, it is on CD2 in the cab file.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"<*(((><{" wrote in message
news:lhmv02pc6ameqds9q0oo1d2kfd3fsrpl17@4ax.com...
| Hi people,
|
| I'm feeling a bit guilty. I recall now, dimly, that about 10
| years ago I hacked a font to get it to display some special characters
| used in an American Indian language I was working on. It was just so
| I could get good copy to make books.
| Ahem -- it seems I must have hacked my Century Schoolbook. :-(
| Too bad I didn't give it another name -- Wasco Century Schoolbook
| would have been appropriate.
| I have no idea how I did it, or how to rename the font for just
| those purposes. Perhaps I'll need to pack up this font and save it
| someplace special, and dig out a recent version of Century Schoolbook.
| Would it be available on MS's site? Or in what original program
| CD should I look to find the original version with the section symbol?
|
| <*((((><{
| Fishy@Ocean.Net
|
| In the last exciting episode on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:01:46 -0500, Stan
| Brown wrote:
|
| >Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:29:13 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
| >> So back to my original question -- can I somehow edit the font to
| >> add a section symbol?
| >
| >Theoretically yes. But for all practical purposes the answer is "No".
| >
| >Someone suggested you do Insert:: Symbol. What do you see when you
| >try that?
|
date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:04:21 -0400
author: Thomas Ferguson
Re: Centuury Schoolbook -- needs a section symbol
Thanks, Suzanne & Tom. I found it! Now -- if I could just remember
how I hacked it to begin with ... hmm.
<*((((><{
Fishy@Ocean.Net
In the last exciting episode on Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:04:21 -0400,
"Thomas Ferguson" wrote:
>Try here:
>
>https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=697a2c2b-9eff-4d4c-8655-4da3acd8aa16&displaylang=en
>
>The family is on the Office 2000 CD. If you have a version with
>Publisher, It is on the same CD as Publisher. There are the usual four
>files. The naming scheme is idiosyncratic:
>censcbk.ttf regular or Roman
>schlbkb.ttf bold
>schlbkbi.ttf bold Italic
>schlbki.ttf Italic
>
>On my CD set, it is on CD2 in the cab file.
>
>Let us know.
>
>Tom
>MSMVP
>Windows Shell/User
>
>"<*(((><{" wrote in message
>news:lhmv02pc6ameqds9q0oo1d2kfd3fsrpl17@4ax.com...
>| Hi people,
>|
>| I'm feeling a bit guilty. I recall now, dimly, that about 10
>| years ago I hacked a font to get it to display some special characters
>| used in an American Indian language I was working on. It was just so
>| I could get good copy to make books.
>| Ahem -- it seems I must have hacked my Century Schoolbook. :-(
>| Too bad I didn't give it another name -- Wasco Century Schoolbook
>| would have been appropriate.
>| I have no idea how I did it, or how to rename the font for just
>| those purposes. Perhaps I'll need to pack up this font and save it
>| someplace special, and dig out a recent version of Century Schoolbook.
>| Would it be available on MS's site? Or in what original program
>| CD should I look to find the original version with the section symbol?
>|
>| <*((((><{
>| Fishy@Ocean.Net
>|
>| In the last exciting episode on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:01:46 -0500, Stan
>| Brown wrote:
>|
>| >Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:29:13 -0800 from <*(((><{ :
>| >> So back to my original question -- can I somehow edit the font to
>| >> add a section symbol?
>| >
>| >Theoretically yes. But for all practical purposes the answer is "No".
>| >
>| >Someone suggested you do Insert:: Symbol. What do you see when you
>| >try that?
>|
>
date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:19:11 -0800
author: *((({
|
|
