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date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 06:45:01 -0700,
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Re: How do I set up a booklet to bind with punch and bind system?
Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever addressed
this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I don't
understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.
"TXWeezie" wrote:
> Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help, Suzanne. I
> think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
> > If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout), then I
> > don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One more
> > print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole thing as a
> > package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two documents in
> > Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF, why not
> > just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the imposition?
> >
> > --
> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > Words into Type
> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
> > all may benefit.
> >
> > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> > news:EB0C447E-8FA1-497F-9E39-EEEF08573514@microsoft.com...
> > > Since you can have different headers and footers for the first page only,
> > I
> > > had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside and
> > > outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page numbers on
> > > them.
> > >
> > > I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is there
> > another
> > > way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck with the
> > way
> > > it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the covers
> > in
> > > a separate document?
> > >
> > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then you have
> > to
> > > > include the section number with the page number.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > > > Words into Type
> > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> > newsgroup so
> > > > all may benefit.
> > > >
> > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> > > > news:B74EB771-969E-43C6-A858-C9C5B5356C34@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not all my
> > > > pages
> > > > > are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2 on
> > status
> > > > bar
> > > > > and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not numbered in
> > the
> > > > > footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.
> > > > >
> > > > > I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6 sheets
> > that
> > > > > printed are as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > Cov Cov
> > > > > Inside Cov TOC
> > > > > page #d 2 Inside Cov
> > > > > TOC page #d 2
> > > > > Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
> > > > > Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4
> > > > >
> > > > > Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages, if you
> > like
> > > > > but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste it into
> > this
> > > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
> > Instead,
> > > > just
> > > > > > create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet" selection in
> > Page
> > > > Setup
> > > > > > (not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your half
> > pages.
> > > > Then,
> > > > > > in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It may
> > require
> > > > more
> > > > > > than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite limit to
> > how
> > > > many
> > > > > > page numbers you can put in the Pages box.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > > > > > Words into Type
> > > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > > > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> > > > newsgroup so
> > > > > > all may benefit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> > > > > > news:626AEF2A-AB44-4650-86FC-BF20920DDA84@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's printed as
> > is,
> > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only the
> > right
> > > > > > > (outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the left
> > (inside).
> > > > I
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > > to have it printed it as follows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1st sheet
> > > > > > > Front Back
> > > > > > > page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2nd sheet
> > > > > > > page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
> > > > > > > and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
> > booklets.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS Word?
> > If
> > > > the
> > > > > > > latter, how do I set this up?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 06:45:01 -0700
author: TxWeezie
Re: How do I set up a booklet to bind with punch and bind system?
Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as two
pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins tab
of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the page
twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in the
Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print it
twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
"TxWeezie" wrote in message
news:E0C7FFC5-5C21-4C25-9848-A71720F589EF@microsoft.com...
> Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
> addressed
> this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
> printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I don't
> understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.
>
> "TXWeezie" wrote:
>
>> Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
>> Suzanne. I
>> think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>>
>> > If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout), then
>> > I
>> > don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
>> > more
>> > print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole thing
>> > as a
>> > package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two documents
>> > in
>> > Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF, why
>> > not
>> > just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the imposition?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > Words into Type
>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> > newsgroup so
>> > all may benefit.
>> >
>> > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
>> > news:EB0C447E-8FA1-497F-9E39-EEEF08573514@microsoft.com...
>> > > Since you can have different headers and footers for the first page
>> > > only,
>> > I
>> > > had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
>> > > and
>> > > outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
>> > > numbers on
>> > > them.
>> > >
>> > > I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is there
>> > another
>> > > way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck with
>> > > the
>> > way
>> > > it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
>> > > covers
>> > in
>> > > a separate document?
>> > >
>> > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then you
>> > > > have
>> > to
>> > > > include the section number with the page number.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > > > Words into Type
>> > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> > newsgroup so
>> > > > all may benefit.
>> > > >
>> > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
>> > > > news:B74EB771-969E-43C6-A858-C9C5B5356C34@microsoft.com...
>> > > > > I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
>> > > > > all my
>> > > > pages
>> > > > > are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2 on
>> > status
>> > > > bar
>> > > > > and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
>> > > > > numbered in
>> > the
>> > > > > footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
>> > > > > sheets
>> > that
>> > > > > printed are as follows:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cov Cov
>> > > > > Inside Cov TOC
>> > > > > page #d 2 Inside Cov
>> > > > > TOC page #d 2
>> > > > > Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
>> > > > > Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages, if
>> > > > > you
>> > like
>> > > > > but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste it
>> > > > > into
>> > this
>> > > > > message.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
>> > Instead,
>> > > > just
>> > > > > > create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet" selection
>> > > > > > in
>> > Page
>> > > > Setup
>> > > > > > (not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your half
>> > pages.
>> > > > Then,
>> > > > > > in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It may
>> > require
>> > > > more
>> > > > > > than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
>> > > > > > limit to
>> > how
>> > > > many
>> > > > > > page numbers you can put in the Pages box.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > > > > > Words into Type
>> > > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > > > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> > > > newsgroup so
>> > > > > > all may benefit.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in
>> > > > > > message
>> > > > > > news:626AEF2A-AB44-4650-86FC-BF20920DDA84@microsoft.com...
>> > > > > > > I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
>> > > > > > > printed as
>> > is,
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > do
>> > > > > > > the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
>> > > > > > > the
>> > right
>> > > > > > > (outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the left
>> > (inside).
>> > > > I
>> > > > > > want
>> > > > > > > to have it printed it as follows:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 1st sheet
>> > > > > > > Front Back
>> > > > > > > page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 2nd sheet
>> > > > > > > page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
>> > > > > > > and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
>> > booklets.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
>> > > > > > > Word?
>> > If
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > latter, how do I set this up?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help!!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:38:52 -0500
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: How do I set up a booklet to bind with punch and bind system?
By "2 up" I mean:
Side 1, 1st sheet: 1 1
Side 2, 1st sheet: 2 2
Side 1, 2nd sheet: 3 3
Side 2, 2nd sheet: 4 4
and so until the last two pages, with odd number pages occupying the first
side and even number pages occupying the second side.
This enables the print shop to use the full 8 1/2" x 11" sheet, which are
cut in half thus creating 2 full documents which can be bound with spiral or
with spines.
My print shop ending up importing into another sofware that allows "2-up"
printing, the pdf file i sent them, but I just thought MS might have found a
way to do that.
Going the route of "1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4" for 70 pages seems a bit cumbersome.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
> reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as two
> pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins tab
> of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the page
> twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in the
> Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print it
> twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "TxWeezie" wrote in message
> news:E0C7FFC5-5C21-4C25-9848-A71720F589EF@microsoft.com...
> > Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
> > addressed
> > this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
> > printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I don't
> > understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.
> >
> > "TXWeezie" wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
> >> Suzanne. I
> >> think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.
> >>
> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >>
> >> > If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout), then
> >> > I
> >> > don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
> >> > more
> >> > print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole thing
> >> > as a
> >> > package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two documents
> >> > in
> >> > Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF, why
> >> > not
> >> > just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the imposition?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> > Words into Type
> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >> > newsgroup so
> >> > all may benefit.
> >> >
> >> > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> >> > news:EB0C447E-8FA1-497F-9E39-EEEF08573514@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Since you can have different headers and footers for the first page
> >> > > only,
> >> > I
> >> > > had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
> >> > > and
> >> > > outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
> >> > > numbers on
> >> > > them.
> >> > >
> >> > > I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is there
> >> > another
> >> > > way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck with
> >> > > the
> >> > way
> >> > > it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
> >> > > covers
> >> > in
> >> > > a separate document?
> >> > >
> >> > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then you
> >> > > > have
> >> > to
> >> > > > include the section number with the page number.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> > > > Words into Type
> >> > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >> > newsgroup so
> >> > > > all may benefit.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> >> > > > news:B74EB771-969E-43C6-A858-C9C5B5356C34@microsoft.com...
> >> > > > > I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
> >> > > > > all my
> >> > > > pages
> >> > > > > are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2 on
> >> > status
> >> > > > bar
> >> > > > > and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
> >> > > > > numbered in
> >> > the
> >> > > > > footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
> >> > > > > sheets
> >> > that
> >> > > > > printed are as follows:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Cov Cov
> >> > > > > Inside Cov TOC
> >> > > > > page #d 2 Inside Cov
> >> > > > > TOC page #d 2
> >> > > > > Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
> >> > > > > Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages, if
> >> > > > > you
> >> > like
> >> > > > > but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste it
> >> > > > > into
> >> > this
> >> > > > > message.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
> >> > Instead,
> >> > > > just
> >> > > > > > create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet" selection
> >> > > > > > in
> >> > Page
> >> > > > Setup
> >> > > > > > (not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your half
> >> > pages.
> >> > > > Then,
> >> > > > > > in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It may
> >> > require
> >> > > > more
> >> > > > > > than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
> >> > > > > > limit to
> >> > how
> >> > > > many
> >> > > > > > page numbers you can put in the Pages box.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> > > > > > Words into Type
> >> > > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> > > > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> > > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >> > > > newsgroup so
> >> > > > > > all may benefit.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in
> >> > > > > > message
> >> > > > > > news:626AEF2A-AB44-4650-86FC-BF20920DDA84@microsoft.com...
> >> > > > > > > I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
> >> > > > > > > printed as
> >> > is,
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > do
> >> > > > > > > the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > right
> >> > > > > > > (outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the left
> >> > (inside).
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > > want
> >> > > > > > > to have it printed it as follows:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 1st sheet
> >> > > > > > > Front Back
> >> > > > > > > page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 2nd sheet
> >> > > > > > > page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
> >> > > > > > > and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
> >> > booklets.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
> >> > > > > > > Word?
> >> > If
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > latter, how do I set this up?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help!!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:27:00 -0700
author: TxWeezie
Re: How do I set up a booklet to bind with punch and bind system?
I agree this is cumbersome. Word's "booklet" capability is limited to
printing a folded booklet. Although such booklets can be printed as is, cut
in half, and punched and bound, that would not be as straightforward as what
you describe.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
"TxWeezie" wrote in message
news:3DD5C918-FEBB-444F-AC1E-956444298D76@microsoft.com...
> By "2 up" I mean:
> Side 1, 1st sheet: 1 1
> Side 2, 1st sheet: 2 2
> Side 1, 2nd sheet: 3 3
> Side 2, 2nd sheet: 4 4
> and so until the last two pages, with odd number pages occupying the first
> side and even number pages occupying the second side.
>
> This enables the print shop to use the full 8 1/2" x 11" sheet, which are
> cut in half thus creating 2 full documents which can be bound with spiral
> or
> with spines.
>
> My print shop ending up importing into another sofware that allows "2-up"
> printing, the pdf file i sent them, but I just thought MS might have found
> a
> way to do that.
>
> Going the route of "1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4" for 70 pages seems a bit cumbersome.
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
>> reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as
>> two
>> pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins
>> tab
>> of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the
>> page
>> twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in
>> the
>> Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print
>> it
>> twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "TxWeezie" wrote in message
>> news:E0C7FFC5-5C21-4C25-9848-A71720F589EF@microsoft.com...
>> > Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
>> > addressed
>> > this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
>> > printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I
>> > don't
>> > understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.
>> >
>> > "TXWeezie" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
>> >> Suzanne. I
>> >> think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.
>> >>
>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout),
>> >> > then
>> >> > I
>> >> > don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
>> >> > more
>> >> > print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole
>> >> > thing
>> >> > as a
>> >> > package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two
>> >> > documents
>> >> > in
>> >> > Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF,
>> >> > why
>> >> > not
>> >> > just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the
>> >> > imposition?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> > Words into Type
>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> >> > newsgroup so
>> >> > all may benefit.
>> >> >
>> >> > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
>> >> > news:EB0C447E-8FA1-497F-9E39-EEEF08573514@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > Since you can have different headers and footers for the first
>> >> > > page
>> >> > > only,
>> >> > I
>> >> > > had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
>> >> > > numbers on
>> >> > > them.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is
>> >> > > there
>> >> > another
>> >> > > way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck
>> >> > > with
>> >> > > the
>> >> > way
>> >> > > it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
>> >> > > covers
>> >> > in
>> >> > > a separate document?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then
>> >> > > > you
>> >> > > > have
>> >> > to
>> >> > > > include the section number with the page number.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> > > > Words into Type
>> >> > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> >> > newsgroup so
>> >> > > > all may benefit.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
>> >> > > > news:B74EB771-969E-43C6-A858-C9C5B5356C34@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > > > I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
>> >> > > > > all my
>> >> > > > pages
>> >> > > > > are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2
>> >> > > > > on
>> >> > status
>> >> > > > bar
>> >> > > > > and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
>> >> > > > > numbered in
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > > footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
>> >> > > > > sheets
>> >> > that
>> >> > > > > printed are as follows:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Cov Cov
>> >> > > > > Inside Cov TOC
>> >> > > > > page #d 2 Inside Cov
>> >> > > > > TOC page #d 2
>> >> > > > > Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
>> >> > > > > Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages,
>> >> > > > > if
>> >> > > > > you
>> >> > like
>> >> > > > > but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste
>> >> > > > > it
>> >> > > > > into
>> >> > this
>> >> > > > > message.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Thanks.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
>> >> > Instead,
>> >> > > > just
>> >> > > > > > create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet"
>> >> > > > > > selection
>> >> > > > > > in
>> >> > Page
>> >> > > > Setup
>> >> > > > > > (not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your
>> >> > > > > > half
>> >> > pages.
>> >> > > > Then,
>> >> > > > > > in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It
>> >> > > > > > may
>> >> > require
>> >> > > > more
>> >> > > > > > than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
>> >> > > > > > limit to
>> >> > how
>> >> > > > many
>> >> > > > > > page numbers you can put in the Pages box.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > --
>> >> > > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> > > > > > Words into Type
>> >> > > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> > > > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
>> >> > > > > > the
>> >> > > > newsgroup so
>> >> > > > > > all may benefit.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in
>> >> > > > > > message
>> >> > > > > > news:626AEF2A-AB44-4650-86FC-BF20920DDA84@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > > > > > I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
>> >> > > > > > > printed as
>> >> > is,
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > > > do
>> >> > > > > > > the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
>> >> > > > > > > the
>> >> > right
>> >> > > > > > > (outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the
>> >> > > > > > > left
>> >> > (inside).
>> >> > > > I
>> >> > > > > > want
>> >> > > > > > > to have it printed it as follows:
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > 1st sheet
>> >> > > > > > > Front Back
>> >> > > > > > > page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > 2nd sheet
>> >> > > > > > > page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
>> >> > > > > > > and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
>> >> > booklets.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
>> >> > > > > > > Word?
>> >> > If
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > latter, how do I set this up?
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help!!
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:04:18 -0500
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: How do I set up a booklet to bind with punch and bind system?
Wow, what a headach that would be...unless you could have a colored sheet
inbetween each copy of the book! You're right no easy way out!
Thanks for the help.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> I agree this is cumbersome. Word's "booklet" capability is limited to
> printing a folded booklet. Although such booklets can be printed as is, cut
> in half, and punched and bound, that would not be as straightforward as what
> you describe.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "TxWeezie" wrote in message
> news:3DD5C918-FEBB-444F-AC1E-956444298D76@microsoft.com...
> > By "2 up" I mean:
> > Side 1, 1st sheet: 1 1
> > Side 2, 1st sheet: 2 2
> > Side 1, 2nd sheet: 3 3
> > Side 2, 2nd sheet: 4 4
> > and so until the last two pages, with odd number pages occupying the first
> > side and even number pages occupying the second side.
> >
> > This enables the print shop to use the full 8 1/2" x 11" sheet, which are
> > cut in half thus creating 2 full documents which can be bound with spiral
> > or
> > with spines.
> >
> > My print shop ending up importing into another sofware that allows "2-up"
> > printing, the pdf file i sent them, but I just thought MS might have found
> > a
> > way to do that.
> >
> > Going the route of "1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4" for 70 pages seems a bit cumbersome.
> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >
> >> Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
> >> reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as
> >> two
> >> pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins
> >> tab
> >> of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the
> >> page
> >> twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in
> >> the
> >> Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print
> >> it
> >> twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> Words into Type
> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >>
> >> "TxWeezie" wrote in message
> >> news:E0C7FFC5-5C21-4C25-9848-A71720F589EF@microsoft.com...
> >> > Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
> >> > addressed
> >> > this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
> >> > printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I
> >> > don't
> >> > understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.
> >> >
> >> > "TXWeezie" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
> >> >> Suzanne. I
> >> >> think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout),
> >> >> > then
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
> >> >> > more
> >> >> > print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole
> >> >> > thing
> >> >> > as a
> >> >> > package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two
> >> >> > documents
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF,
> >> >> > why
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the
> >> >> > imposition?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> >> > Words into Type
> >> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >> >> > newsgroup so
> >> >> > all may benefit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> >> >> > news:EB0C447E-8FA1-497F-9E39-EEEF08573514@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > Since you can have different headers and footers for the first
> >> >> > > page
> >> >> > > only,
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > > had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
> >> >> > > numbers on
> >> >> > > them.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is
> >> >> > > there
> >> >> > another
> >> >> > > way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck
> >> >> > > with
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > way
> >> >> > > it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
> >> >> > > covers
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > > a separate document?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then
> >> >> > > > you
> >> >> > > > have
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > > > include the section number with the page number.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> >> > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> >> > > > Words into Type
> >> >> > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> >> > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >> >> > newsgroup so
> >> >> > > > all may benefit.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in message
> >> >> > > > news:B74EB771-969E-43C6-A858-C9C5B5356C34@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > > > I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
> >> >> > > > > all my
> >> >> > > > pages
> >> >> > > > > are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2
> >> >> > > > > on
> >> >> > status
> >> >> > > > bar
> >> >> > > > > and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
> >> >> > > > > numbered in
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > > > footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
> >> >> > > > > sheets
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > > > > printed are as follows:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Cov Cov
> >> >> > > > > Inside Cov TOC
> >> >> > > > > page #d 2 Inside Cov
> >> >> > > > > TOC page #d 2
> >> >> > > > > Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
> >> >> > > > > Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages,
> >> >> > > > > if
> >> >> > > > > you
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > > > > but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste
> >> >> > > > > it
> >> >> > > > > into
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > > > > message.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Thanks.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
> >> >> > Instead,
> >> >> > > > just
> >> >> > > > > > create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet"
> >> >> > > > > > selection
> >> >> > > > > > in
> >> >> > Page
> >> >> > > > Setup
> >> >> > > > > > (not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your
> >> >> > > > > > half
> >> >> > pages.
> >> >> > > > Then,
> >> >> > > > > > in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It
> >> >> > > > > > may
> >> >> > require
> >> >> > > > more
> >> >> > > > > > than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
> >> >> > > > > > limit to
> >> >> > how
> >> >> > > > many
> >> >> > > > > > page numbers you can put in the Pages box.
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > --
> >> >> > > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> >> > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> >> > > > > > Words into Type
> >> >> > > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> >> > > > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> > > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
> >> >> > > > > > the
> >> >> > > > newsgroup so
> >> >> > > > > > all may benefit.
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > "TXWeezie" wrote in
> >> >> > > > > > message
> >> >> > > > > > news:626AEF2A-AB44-4650-86FC-BF20920DDA84@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > > > > > I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
> >> >> > > > > > > printed as
> >> >> > is,
> >> >> > > > to
> >> >> > > > > > do
> >> >> > > > > > > the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
> >> >> > > > > > > the
> >> >> > right
> >> >> > > > > > > (outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the
> >> >> > > > > > > left
> >> >> > (inside).
> >> >> > > > I
> >> >> > > > > > want
> >> >> > > > > > > to have it printed it as follows:
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > 1st sheet
> >> >> > > > > > > Front Back
> >> >> > > > > > > page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > 2nd sheet
> >> >> > > > > > > page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
> >> >> > > > > > > and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
> >> >> > booklets.
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
> >> >> > > > > > > Word?
> >> >> > If
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > > > > > latter, how do I set this up?
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help!!
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:33:01 -0700
author: TxWeezie
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