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date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:43:58 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.word.mailmerge.fields        back       


won't print address on envelopes   
Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters printed okay 
but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the envelopes, only the 
return address prints but the address for the letter doesn't print.  What 
should I do?
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:43:58 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour cartridge 
installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the envelope address by 
mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the black ink cartridge.

-- 
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters printed 
> okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the envelopes, only 
> the return address prints but the address for the letter doesn't print. 
> What should I do?
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:19:52 +1000   author:   Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a color 
cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses are in English 
and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the Hebrew addresses 
don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to do?
"Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour cartridge 
> installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the envelope address by 
> mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the black ink cartridge.
>
> -- 
> Hope this helps.
>
> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> services on a paid consulting basis.
>
> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters printed 
>> okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the envelopes, only 
>> the return address prints but the address for the letter doesn't print. 
>> What should I do?
>
>
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:26:51 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it print OK?

I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had anything to 
do with.

-- 
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a color 
> cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses are in 
> English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the Hebrew 
> addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to do?
> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour cartridge 
>> installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the envelope address by 
>> mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the black ink cartridge.
>>
>> -- 
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>
>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters printed 
>>> okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the envelopes, only 
>>> the return address prints but the address for the letter doesn't print. 
>>> What should I do?
>>
>>
>
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:39:11 +1000   author:   Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both print 
okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
"Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it print OK?
>
> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had anything 
> to do with.
>
> -- 
> Hope this helps.
>
> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> services on a paid consulting basis.
>
> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a color 
>> cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses are in 
>> English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the Hebrew 
>> addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to do?
>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour cartridge 
>>> installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the envelope address 
>>> by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the black ink 
>>> cartridge.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>
>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters printed 
>>>> okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the envelopes, only 
>>>> the return address prints but the address for the letter doesn't print. 
>>>> What should I do?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:11:04 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?

If not, what is your data source?

Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
 a. preview the merge
 b. and/or use print preview
 c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?

(FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for UK 
English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the Cambria font 
for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook contacts list as the data 
source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge 
function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout. 
Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same model as yours))



-- 
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both print 
> okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it print 
>> OK?
>>
>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had anything 
>> to do with.
>>
>> -- 
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>
>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a color 
>>> cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses are in 
>>> English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the Hebrew 
>>> addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to do?
>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour cartridge 
>>>> installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the envelope address 
>>>> by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the black ink 
>>>> cartridge.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>
>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:08:06 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I finished 
the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear in my mind 
right now but if I moved the Address box section on the envelope (either to 
the right or to the left, I don't remember) only the first few letters of 
each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I wound up having to enter the 
addresses manually and print each envelope separately.  The addresses did 
appear in the preview of the merge, the also printed in the letters 
themselves.  Besides being somewhat old and not having such a good memory, I 
am close to being computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you 
mean when you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data source 
(selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge 
function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I 
used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.

"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>
> If not, what is your data source?
>
> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
> a. preview the merge
> b. and/or use print preview
> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>
> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for UK 
> English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the Cambria 
> font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook contacts list as 
> the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook 
> Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew 
> keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same model as 
> yours))
>
>
>
> -- 
> Peter Jamieson
> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both print 
>> okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it print 
>>> OK?
>>>
>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>> anything to do with.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>
>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses are 
>>>> in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the 
>>>> Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to do?
>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the 
>>>>> black ink cartridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:50:41 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.

OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method there was 
a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data might have got 
in the way.

It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. not 
real data) created the way you usually create it (because the chances that 
I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You can remove "KillMaps" 
from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.

It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, is 
Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single type of 
text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether you are having 
to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If you have 
various mixes is there any pattern as to what prints and what does not?
-- 
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear in 
> my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on the envelope 
> (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) only the first few 
> letters of each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I wound up having to 
> enter the addresses manually and print each envelope separately.  The 
> addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the also printed in the 
> letters themselves.  Besides being somewhat old and not having such a good 
> memory, I am close to being computer-illiterate, so I don't really 
> understand what you mean when you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as 
> the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook 
> Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew 
> keyboard layout."  I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A 
> New List.
>
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>
>> If not, what is your data source?
>>
>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>> a. preview the merge
>> b. and/or use print preview
>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>
>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for UK 
>> English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the Cambria 
>> font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook contacts list as 
>> the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook 
>> Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew 
>> keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same model as 
>> yours))
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Peter Jamieson
>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it print 
>>>> OK?
>>>>
>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>
>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses 
>>>>> are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the 
>>>>> Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to 
>>>>> do?
>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using the 
>>>>>> black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:30:40 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the test 
data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how it prints 
in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I usually create it? 
I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled on top of each column. 
Since that's probably not what you mean, what do you mean?
the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are entered 
in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is two lines of 
English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return address is not entered 
in the directory, so that might not have anything to do with the problem.)
I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for one 
of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew.  Only the 
mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew address didn't 
print at all!
Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>
> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method there 
> was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data might 
> have got in the way.
>
> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. not 
> real data) created the way you usually create it (because the chances that 
> I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You can remove 
> "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>
> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, is 
> Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single type of 
> text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether you are having 
> to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If you have 
> various mixes is there any pattern as to what prints and what does not?
> -- 
> Peter Jamieson
> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear in 
>> my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on the envelope 
>> (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) only the first few 
>> letters of each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I wound up having to 
>> enter the addresses manually and print each envelope separately.  The 
>> addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the also printed in the 
>> letters themselves.  Besides being somewhat old and not having such a 
>> good memory, I am close to being computer-illiterate, so I don't really 
>> understand what you mean when you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as 
>> the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook 
>> Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew 
>> keyboard layout."  I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A 
>> New List.
>>
>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>
>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>
>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>> a. preview the merge
>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>
>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for 
>>> UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the 
>>> Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook contacts 
>>> list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the 
>>> Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the 
>>> Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same model 
>>> as yours))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Peter Jamieson
>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it print 
>>>>> OK?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses 
>>>>>> are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only the 
>>>>>> Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What to 
>>>>>> do?
>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using 
>>>>>>> the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:15:53 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
I just did another test: if I add an extra line at the bottom or in the 
middle of the address consisting of only one English letter, then all the 
other four or five lines of all Hebrew text print okay.  However, if the 
extra English line is just a period or a dash, then nothing prints.  It has 
to be a letter!  Does that make sense to you?
"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how it 
> prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I usually 
> create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled on top of 
> each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do you mean?
> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are 
> entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is two 
> lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return address is 
> not entered in the directory, so that might not have anything to do with 
> the problem.)
> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for one 
> of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew.  Only the 
> mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew address didn't 
> print at all!
> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>
>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method there 
>> was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data might 
>> have got in the way.
>>
>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. not 
>> real data) created the way you usually create it (because the chances 
>> that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You can remove 
>> "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>>
>> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
>> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, is 
>> Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single type of 
>> text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether you are 
>> having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If 
>> you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what prints and what 
>> does not?
>> -- 
>> Peter Jamieson
>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear 
>>> in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on the 
>>> envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) only the 
>>> first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I wound 
>>> up having to enter the addresses manually and print each envelope 
>>> separately.  The addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the 
>>> also printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being somewhat old and 
>>> not having such a good memory, I am close to being computer-illiterate, 
>>> so I don't really understand what you mean when you say, "using an 
>>> Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not 
>>> starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in 
>>> Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used the Mail merge Wizard 
>>> and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>
>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>
>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>
>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>
>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for 
>>>> UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the 
>>>> Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook contacts 
>>>> list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the 
>>>> Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the 
>>>> Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same 
>>>> model as yours))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it 
>>>>>> print OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses 
>>>>>>> are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only 
>>>>>>> the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What 
>>>>>>> to do?
>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using 
>>>>>>>> the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:01:44 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how it 
> prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I usually 
> create it?

What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew addresses."

In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter how you 
insert a character - you should end up with the same thing. But that's not 
necessarily the case because Word (for example) does not rely solely on the 
characters entered for its information about text direction. It also records 
directional information.

I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may have a Hebrew 
keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew text, I either 
have to
 a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my QWERTY 
keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
 b. use a virtual keyboard or
 c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say) Windows 
Character map one by one.
 d. insert test data programmatically

Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may mean that 
the data I save has differences from the data you save, and that may result 
in differences in the way the data is handled when we merge.

FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will try to pick this up 
again after that.

Peter Jamieson

"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how it 
> prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I usually 
> create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled on top of 
> each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do you mean?
> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are 
> entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is two 
> lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return address is 
> not entered in the directory, so that might not have anything to do with 
> the problem.)
> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for one 
> of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew.  Only the 
> mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew address didn't 
> print at all!
> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>
>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method there 
>> was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data might 
>> have got in the way.
>>
>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. not 
>> real data) created the way you usually create it (because the chances 
>> that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You can remove 
>> "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>>
>> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
>> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, is 
>> Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single type of 
>> text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether you are 
>> having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If 
>> you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what prints and what 
>> does not?
>> -- 
>> Peter Jamieson
>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear 
>>> in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on the 
>>> envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) only the 
>>> first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I wound 
>>> up having to enter the addresses manually and print each envelope 
>>> separately.  The addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the 
>>> also printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being somewhat old and 
>>> not having such a good memory, I am close to being computer-illiterate, 
>>> so I don't really understand what you mean when you say, "using an 
>>> Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not 
>>> starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in 
>>> Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used the Mail merge Wizard 
>>> and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>
>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>
>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>
>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>
>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for 
>>>> UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the 
>>>> Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook contacts 
>>>> list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting with the 
>>>> Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the 
>>>> Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same 
>>>> model as yours))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it 
>>>>>> print OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses 
>>>>>>> are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only 
>>>>>>> the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print fine.  What 
>>>>>>> to do?
>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using 
>>>>>>>> the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:57:28 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press Alt-Shift 
to change from one language to the other.  When I send you the test data, do 
you just want the Hebrew addresses printed out as if I were typing an 
envelope on a typewriter, or do you want each bit of information (first 
name, last name, address line 1, address line 2, etc) under its appropriate 
column heading?
"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
news:C7467B5B-3801-40A5-B220-C91781DD0B1A@microsoft.com...
>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how it 
>> prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I usually 
>> create it?
>
> What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew 
> addresses."
>
> In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter how you 
> insert a character - you should end up with the same thing. But that's not 
> necessarily the case because Word (for example) does not rely solely on 
> the characters entered for its information about text direction. It also 
> records directional information.
>
> I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may have a Hebrew 
> keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew text, I either 
> have to
> a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my QWERTY 
> keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
> b. use a virtual keyboard or
> c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say) Windows 
> Character map one by one.
> d. insert test data programmatically
>
> Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may mean 
> that the data I save has differences from the data you save, and that may 
> result in differences in the way the data is handled when we merge.
>
> FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will try to pick this 
> up again after that.
>
> Peter Jamieson
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how it 
>> prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I usually 
>> create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled on top of 
>> each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do you mean?
>> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are 
>> entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is two 
>> lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return address is 
>> not entered in the directory, so that might not have anything to do with 
>> the problem.)
>> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for 
>> one of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew.  Only 
>> the mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew address 
>> didn't print at all!
>> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>
>>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method there 
>>> was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data might 
>>> have got in the way.
>>>
>>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. not 
>>> real data) created the way you usually create it (because the chances 
>>> that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You can remove 
>>> "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>>>
>>> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
>>> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, is 
>>> Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single type of 
>>> text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether you are 
>>> having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If 
>>> you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what prints and what 
>>> does not?
>>> -- 
>>> Peter Jamieson
>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>>>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear 
>>>> in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on the 
>>>> envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) only 
>>>> the first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I 
>>>> wound up having to enter the addresses manually and print each envelope 
>>>> separately.  The addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the 
>>>> also printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being somewhat old and 
>>>> not having such a good memory, I am close to being computer-illiterate, 
>>>> so I don't really understand what you mean when you say, "using an 
>>>> Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not 
>>>> starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in 
>>>> Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used the Mail merge 
>>>> Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>>
>>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>>
>>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up for 
>>>>> UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the 
>>>>> Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook 
>>>>> contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting 
>>>>> with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook 
>>>>> using the Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not 
>>>>> the same model as yours))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it 
>>>>>>> print OK?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>>>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the addresses 
>>>>>>>> are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized that only 
>>>>>>>> the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print fine. 
>>>>>>>> What to do?
>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using 
>>>>>>>>> the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for the 
>>>>>>>>>> letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:16:38 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
OK, I think you've given me enough info. to try the same thing myself here 
when I next have a chance.

If you want to send something it would actually be the data file that 
contains your merge data (you have to save it at some point when you create 
a new "address list" in Word, and in Word 2007 it will have a .mdb 
extension.

-- 
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

"Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
news:%23Ldl114CJHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press Alt-Shift 
> to change from one language to the other.  When I send you the test data, 
> do you just want the Hebrew addresses printed out as if I were typing an 
> envelope on a typewriter, or do you want each bit of information (first 
> name, last name, address line 1, address line 2, etc) under its 
> appropriate column heading?
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
> news:C7467B5B-3801-40A5-B220-C91781DD0B1A@microsoft.com...
>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how 
>>> it prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I 
>>> usually create it?
>>
>> What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew 
>> addresses."
>>
>> In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter how you 
>> insert a character - you should end up with the same thing. But that's 
>> not necessarily the case because Word (for example) does not rely solely 
>> on the characters entered for its information about text direction. It 
>> also records directional information.
>>
>> I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may have a Hebrew 
>> keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew text, I 
>> either have to
>> a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my QWERTY 
>> keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
>> b. use a virtual keyboard or
>> c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say) Windows 
>> Character map one by one.
>> d. insert test data programmatically
>>
>> Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may mean 
>> that the data I save has differences from the data you save, and that may 
>> result in differences in the way the data is handled when we merge.
>>
>> FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will try to pick this 
>> up again after that.
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>> news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how 
>>> it prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I 
>>> usually create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled 
>>> on top of each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do 
>>> you mean?
>>> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are 
>>> entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is 
>>> two lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return address 
>>> is not entered in the directory, so that might not have anything to do 
>>> with the problem.)
>>> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for 
>>> one of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew.  Only 
>>> the mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew address 
>>> didn't print at all!
>>> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>
>>>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method 
>>>> there was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data 
>>>> might have got in the way.
>>>>
>>>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. 
>>>> not real data) created the way you usually create it (because the 
>>>> chances that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You can 
>>>> remove "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>>>>
>>>> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
>>>> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, is 
>>>> Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single type of 
>>>> text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether you are 
>>>> having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. 
>>>> If you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what prints and 
>>>> what does not?
>>>> -- 
>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>>>>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't clear 
>>>>> in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on the 
>>>>> envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) only 
>>>>> the first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address printed!  I 
>>>>> wound up having to enter the addresses manually and print each 
>>>>> envelope separately.  The addresses did appear in the preview of the 
>>>>> merge, the also printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being 
>>>>> somewhat old and not having such a good memory, I am close to being 
>>>>> computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you mean when 
>>>>> you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected 
>>>>> from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) 
>>>>> with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used 
>>>>> the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up 
>>>>>> for UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses the 
>>>>>> Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook 
>>>>>> contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting 
>>>>>> with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in 
>>>>>> Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet 
>>>>>> (but not the same model as yours))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it 
>>>>>>>> print OK?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has a 
>>>>>>>>> color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the 
>>>>>>>>> addresses are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized 
>>>>>>>>> that only the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones print 
>>>>>>>>> fine. What to do?
>>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in 
>>>>>>>>> message news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by using 
>>>>>>>>>> the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself 
>>>>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:04:22 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
I made a test data file of three addresses (with an .mdb extension) and 
tried to send it to you as a file attachment to a "reply group"-email but I 
got the error message: "Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 
'Re: won't print address on envelopes', Account: 'Microsoft Communities', 
Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '437 (648) 
Transfer Failed - Do Not Try Again -- The Article is too large', Port: 119, 
Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 437, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9".  How am I 
supposed to send you the data?
Did you see my other reply that if I add an extra line of one English word 
to an all-Hebrew address, it prints the whole thing okay?
"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
news:uu6QBQ5CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK, I think you've given me enough info. to try the same thing myself here 
> when I next have a chance.
>
> If you want to send something it would actually be the data file that 
> contains your merge data (you have to save it at some point when you 
> create a new "address list" in Word, and in Word 2007 it will have a .mdb 
> extension.
>
> -- 
> Peter Jamieson
> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:%23Ldl114CJHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press 
>> Alt-Shift to change from one language to the other.  When I send you the 
>> test data, do you just want the Hebrew addresses printed out as if I were 
>> typing an envelope on a typewriter, or do you want each bit of 
>> information (first name, last name, address line 1, address line 2, etc) 
>> under its appropriate column heading?
>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>> news:C7467B5B-3801-40A5-B220-C91781DD0B1A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>>>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how 
>>>> it prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I 
>>>> usually create it?
>>>
>>> What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew 
>>> addresses."
>>>
>>> In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter how 
>>> you insert a character - you should end up with the same thing. But 
>>> that's not necessarily the case because Word (for example) does not rely 
>>> solely on the characters entered for its information about text 
>>> direction. It also records directional information.
>>>
>>> I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may have a Hebrew 
>>> keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew text, I 
>>> either have to
>>> a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my QWERTY 
>>> keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
>>> b. use a virtual keyboard or
>>> c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say) Windows 
>>> Character map one by one.
>>> d. insert test data programmatically
>>>
>>> Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may mean 
>>> that the data I save has differences from the data you save, and that 
>>> may result in differences in the way the data is handled when we merge.
>>>
>>> FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will try to pick 
>>> this up again after that.
>>>
>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>> news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>>>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how 
>>>> it prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I 
>>>> usually create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled 
>>>> on top of each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do 
>>>> you mean?
>>>> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are 
>>>> entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is 
>>>> two lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return 
>>>> address is not entered in the directory, so that might not have 
>>>> anything to do with the problem.)
>>>> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for 
>>>> one of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew. 
>>>> Only the mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew 
>>>> address didn't print at all!
>>>> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method 
>>>>> there was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data 
>>>>> might have got in the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. 
>>>>> not real data) created the way you usually create it (because the 
>>>>> chances that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You 
>>>>> can remove "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
>>>>> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, 
>>>>> is Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single 
>>>>> type of text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether 
>>>>> you are having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter 
>>>>> digits. If you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what 
>>>>> prints and what does not?
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>>>>>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't 
>>>>>> clear in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on 
>>>>>> the envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) 
>>>>>> only the first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address 
>>>>>> printed!  I wound up having to enter the addresses manually and print 
>>>>>> each envelope separately.  The addresses did appear in the preview of 
>>>>>> the merge, the also printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being 
>>>>>> somewhat old and not having such a good memory, I am close to being 
>>>>>> computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you mean when 
>>>>>> you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected 
>>>>>> from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) 
>>>>>> with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used 
>>>>>> the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up 
>>>>>>> for UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses 
>>>>>>> the Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook 
>>>>>>> contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting 
>>>>>>> with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in 
>>>>>>> Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet 
>>>>>>> (but not the same model as yours))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>>>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it 
>>>>>>>>> print OK?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has 
>>>>>>>>>> a color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the 
>>>>>>>>>> addresses are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized 
>>>>>>>>>> that only the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones 
>>>>>>>>>> print fine. What to do?
>>>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>> message news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by 
>>>>>>>>>>> using the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself 
>>>>>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:01:19 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
I made a test data file of three addresses (with an .mdb extension) and 
tried to send it to you as a file attachment to a "reply group"-email but I 
got the error message: "Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject 
'Re: won't print address on envelopes', Account: 'Microsoft Communities', 
Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '437 (648) 
Transfer Failed - Do Not Try Again -- The Article is too large', Port: 119, 
Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 437, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9".  How am I 
supposed to send you the data?
Did you see my other reply that if I add an extra line of one English word 
to an all-Hebrew address, it prints the whole thing okay?
"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
news:uu6QBQ5CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK, I think you've given me enough info. to try the same thing myself here 
> when I next have a chance.
>
> If you want to send something it would actually be the data file that 
> contains your merge data (you have to save it at some point when you 
> create a new "address list" in Word, and in Word 2007 it will have a .mdb 
> extension.
>
> -- 
> Peter Jamieson
> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>
> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:%23Ldl114CJHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press 
>> Alt-Shift to change from one language to the other.  When I send you the 
>> test data, do you just want the Hebrew addresses printed out as if I were 
>> typing an envelope on a typewriter, or do you want each bit of 
>> information (first name, last name, address line 1, address line 2, etc) 
>> under its appropriate column heading?
>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>> news:C7467B5B-3801-40A5-B220-C91781DD0B1A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>>>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how 
>>>> it prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I 
>>>> usually create it?
>>>
>>> What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew 
>>> addresses."
>>>
>>> In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter how 
>>> you insert a character - you should end up with the same thing. But 
>>> that's not necessarily the case because Word (for example) does not rely 
>>> solely on the characters entered for its information about text 
>>> direction. It also records directional information.
>>>
>>> I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may have a Hebrew 
>>> keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew text, I 
>>> either have to
>>> a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my QWERTY 
>>> keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
>>> b. use a virtual keyboard or
>>> c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say) Windows 
>>> Character map one by one.
>>> d. insert test data programmatically
>>>
>>> Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may mean 
>>> that the data I save has differences from the data you save, and that 
>>> may result in differences in the way the data is handled when we merge.
>>>
>>> FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will try to pick 
>>> this up again after that.
>>>
>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>> news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the 
>>>> test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how 
>>>> it prints in the address block?  And what do you mean by the way I 
>>>> usually create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled 
>>>> on top of each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do 
>>>> you mean?
>>>> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are 
>>>> entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return address is 
>>>> two lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return 
>>>> address is not entered in the directory, so that might not have 
>>>> anything to do with the problem.)
>>>> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for 
>>>> one of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew. 
>>>> Only the mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew 
>>>> address didn't print at all!
>>>> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method 
>>>>> there was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data 
>>>>> might have got in the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e. 
>>>>> not real data) created the way you usually create it (because the 
>>>>> chances that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You 
>>>>> can remove "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew 
>>>>> characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed, 
>>>>> is Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single 
>>>>> type of text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether 
>>>>> you are having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter 
>>>>> digits. If you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what 
>>>>> prints and what does not?
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.  I 
>>>>>> finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't 
>>>>>> clear in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on 
>>>>>> the envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember) 
>>>>>> only the first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address 
>>>>>> printed!  I wound up having to enter the addresses manually and print 
>>>>>> each envelope separately.  The addresses did appear in the preview of 
>>>>>> the merge, the also printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being 
>>>>>> somewhat old and not having such a good memory, I am close to being 
>>>>>> computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you mean when 
>>>>>> you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected 
>>>>>> from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) 
>>>>>> with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used 
>>>>>> the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up 
>>>>>>> for UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses 
>>>>>>> the Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook 
>>>>>>> contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting 
>>>>>>> with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in 
>>>>>>> Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet 
>>>>>>> (but not the same model as yours))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both 
>>>>>>>> print okay there!  I may have to address them by hand!
>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it 
>>>>>>>>> print OK?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had 
>>>>>>>>> anything to do with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has 
>>>>>>>>>> a color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some of the 
>>>>>>>>>> addresses are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I just realized 
>>>>>>>>>> that only the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones 
>>>>>>>>>> print fine. What to do?
>>>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>> message news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour 
>>>>>>>>>>> cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create black for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by 
>>>>>>>>>>> using the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself 
>>>>>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>> news:15851323-9C10-4B2E-BE2A-658A237DB4BA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge.  The letters 
>>>>>>>>>>>> printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the letter doesn't print. What should I do?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:01:19 -0400   author:   Dr. Dave

Re: won't print address on envelopes   
The forum does not accept attachments - unscramble Peter's e-mail address 
and send it to him (ideally zipped).

-- 
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor -  Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>


Dr. Dave wrote:
> I made a test data file of three addresses (with an .mdb extension)
> and tried to send it to you as a file attachment to a "reply
> group"-email but I got the error message: "Windows Mail could not
> post your message. Subject 'Re: won't print address on envelopes',
> Account: 'Microsoft Communities', Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com',
> Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '437 (648) Transfer Failed - Do Not
> Try Again -- The Article is too large', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No,
> Server Error: 437, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9".  How am I supposed to
> send you the data? Did you see my other reply that if I add an extra line 
> of one English
> word to an all-Hebrew address, it prints the whole thing okay?
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
> news:uu6QBQ5CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> OK, I think you've given me enough info. to try the same thing
>> myself here when I next have a chance.
>>
>> If you want to send something it would actually be the data file that
>> contains your merge data (you have to save it at some point when you
>> create a new "address list" in Word, and in Word 2007 it will have a
>> .mdb extension.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Jamieson
>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>
>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message
>> news:%23Ldl114CJHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press
>>> Alt-Shift to change from one language to the other.  When I send
>>> you the test data, do you just want the Hebrew addresses printed
>>> out as if I were typing an envelope on a typewriter, or do you want
>>> each bit of information (first name, last name, address line 1,
>>> address line 2, etc) under its appropriate column heading?
>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
>>> news:C7467B5B-3801-40A5-B220-C91781DD0B1A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send
>>>>> you the test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the
>>>>> directory or how it prints in the address block?  And what do you
>>>>> mean by the way I usually create it?
>>>>
>>>> What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew
>>>> addresses."
>>>>
>>>> In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter
>>>> how you insert a character - you should end up with the same
>>>> thing. But that's not necessarily the case because Word (for
>>>> example) does not rely solely on the characters entered for its
>>>> information about text direction. It also records directional
>>>> information. I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may 
>>>> have a
>>>> Hebrew keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew
>>>> text, I either have to
>>>> a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my
>>>> QWERTY keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
>>>> b. use a virtual keyboard or
>>>> c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say)
>>>> Windows Character map one by one.
>>>> d. insert test data programmatically
>>>>
>>>> Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may
>>>> mean that the data I save has differences from the data you save,
>>>> and that may result in differences in the way the data is handled
>>>> when we merge. FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will 
>>>> try to
>>>> pick this up again after that.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message
>>>> news:O3SO7ZvCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send
>>>>> you the test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the
>>>>> directory or how it prints in the address block?  And what do you
>>>>> mean by the way I usually create it? I enter each field in the
>>>>> directory as it's labeled on top of each column. Since that's
>>>>> probably not what you mean, what do you mean?
>>>>> the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers
>>>>> are entered in Hebrew, without changing to English.  My return
>>>>> address is two lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although
>>>>> my return address is not entered in the directory, so that might
>>>>> not have anything to do with the problem.)
>>>>> I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in
>>>>> English for one of the addresses and another address with all
>>>>> lines in Hebrew. Only the mixed address printed (and correctly)
>>>>> but the all Hebrew address didn't print at all!
>>>>> Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
>>>>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:euDI4F6BJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other
>>>>>> method there was a possibility that the method that Word uses to
>>>>>> get the data might have got in the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data
>>>>>> (i.e. not real data) created the way you usually create it
>>>>>> (because the chances that I'll enter the data the same way you
>>>>>> do are slim). You can remove "KillMaps" from my e-mail and
>>>>>> e-mail me some if you like. It might help to know whether your 
>>>>>> addresses are all either
>>>>>> Hebrew characters or Latin characters, or whether some are
>>>>>> mixed. If mixed, is Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is
>>>>>> each line a single type of text? (Actually, it isn't so much the
>>>>>> characters as whether you are having to alter the direction of
>>>>>> typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If you have various mixes
>>>>>> is there any pattern as to what prints and what does not?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OKWuVOuBJHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Thanks for responding.  I didn't see your reply until just now.
>>>>>>> I finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars
>>>>>>> aren't clear in my mind right now but if I moved the Address
>>>>>>> box section on the envelope (either to the right or to the
>>>>>>> left, I don't remember) only the first few letters of each line
>>>>>>> of the Hebrew address printed!  I wound up having to enter the
>>>>>>> addresses manually and print each envelope separately.  The
>>>>>>> addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the also
>>>>>>> printed in the letters themselves.  Besides being somewhat old
>>>>>>> and not having such a good memory, I am close to being
>>>>>>> computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you mean
>>>>>>> when you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data
>>>>>>> source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook
>>>>>>> Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the
>>>>>>> Hebrew keyboard layout."  I used the Mail merge Wizard and
>>>>>>> clicked on Create A New List.  "Peter Jamieson" 
>>>>>>>  wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:OvMDim8AJHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If not, what is your data source?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
>>>>>>>> a. preview the merge
>>>>>>>> b. and/or use print preview
>>>>>>>> c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both
>>>>>>>> set up for UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout
>>>>>>>> (which uses the Cambria font for both address boxes here, and
>>>>>>>> using an Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected
>>>>>>>> from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge
>>>>>>>> function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard
>>>>>>>> layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same model as
>>>>>>>> yours)) --
>>>>>>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>>>>>> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:BE930421-7B96-4692-9F65-E7B68DCFA2C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and
>>>>>>>>> they both print okay there!  I may have to address them by
>>>>>>>>> hand! "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" 
>>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:exDnzhS$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so,
>>>>>>>>>> does it print OK?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever
>>>>>>>>>> had anything to do with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
>>>>>>>>>> yourself of my
>>>>>>>>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Dave"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:B1104708-2CB7-4D68-AE9D-4CCA00FA4560@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for responding!  My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but
>>>>>>>>>>> it has a color cartridge installed.  I'm in Israel and some
>>>>>>>>>>> of the addresses are in English and some are in Hebrew.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> just realized that only the Hebrew addresses don't print,
>>>>>>>>>>> the English ones print fine. What to do?
>>>>>>>>>>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message news:Ow1pd1R$IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the
>>>>>>>>>>>> colour cartridge installed?  Some InkJet Printers create
>>>>>>>>>>>> black for the envelope address by mixing the coloured inks
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than by using the black ink cartridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>