I'm not sure if this is the best news group for questions re. Word's 
built-in equation editor. If you know a better forum: please advise!

If one has long textual subscripts like (in absence of any layout 
features in ASCII text let uppercase here be characters in math-style 
and lower-case be characters Text-style):

X = Ylong_subscript_here + Zanother_long_ name_here

For some strange reason equation editor tears subscripts, that contain 
more than 10 characters appart and inserts some long white space after 
each 10th character, thus yielding very odd looking formulas that look 
like:

X = Ylong_subsc   ript_here + Zanother_ot   her _name_h   ere
(Hope I could make myself clear here...)

In fact, the textual fragments don't even need to be in sub- or 
superscript. Some simple tests suggest that any text that is longer than 
10 chars is split up into chunks of 10 chars maximum.

Any idea, why this is so and how one can prevent texts from being split 
like this?

Michael

PS.: Alas, I can't define the text as Math, either, because it contains 
the sylables "sin" and "det" which are then false "recognized" as sine 
and determinant. ||-(

Michael Moser wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is the best news group for questions re. Word's 
> built-in equation editor. If you know a better forum: please advise!
> 
> If one has long textual subscripts like (in absence of any layout 
> features in ASCII text let uppercase here be characters in math-style 
> and lower-case be characters Text-style):
> 
> X = Ylong_subscript_here + Zanother_long_ name_here
> 
> For some strange reason equation editor tears subscripts, that contain 
> more than 10 characters appart and inserts some long white space after 
> each 10th character, thus yielding very odd looking formulas that look 
> like:
> 
> X = Ylong_subsc   ript_here + Zanother_ot   her _name_h   ere
> (Hope I could make myself clear here...)
> 
> In fact, the textual fragments don't even need to be in sub- or 
> superscript. Some simple tests suggest that any text that is longer than 
> 10 chars is split up into chunks of 10 chars maximum.
> 
> Any idea, why this is so and how one can prevent texts from being split 
> like this?
> 
> Michael

How about using an equation field?  They're generally not hard to write 
unless you have things like nested matrices to describe.  Mathematicians 
and their printers have ensured that 'normal' mathematical text is, in 
general, easy to write and compose.

Hi Michael

Michael Moser wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is the best news group for questions re. Word's 
> built-in equation editor. If you know a better forum: please advise!
> 
> If one has long textual subscripts like (in absence of any layout 
> features in ASCII text let uppercase here be characters in math-style 
> and lower-case be characters Text-style):
> 
> X = Ylong_subscript_here + Zanother_long_ name_here
> 
> For some strange reason equation editor tears subscripts, that contain 
> more than 10 characters appart and inserts some long white space after 
> each 10th character, thus yielding very odd looking formulas that look 
> like:
> 
> X = Ylong_subsc   ript_here + Zanother_ot   her _name_h   ere
> (Hope I could make myself clear here...)

Are you positive that the things that get split apart are in text style? 
For instance, when you type "cosx", EE will split this to "cos x" if 
it's not in text style (cosinus).

HTH
Robert
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"Robert M. Franz (RMF)"  wrote in message 
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> ...
> Are you positive that the things that get split apart are in text 
> style? For instance, when you type "cosx", EE will split this to "cos 
> x" if it's not in text style (cosinus).

Yes, I am absolutely positive that they are in text style for exactly 
that reason. One of the subscripts contained an "sin" amidst the word 
and so was falsely split, too. So I changed the subscripts to text 
style. But that tears things appart in the peculiar way decribed, too..

Michael

"anon k"  wrote in message 
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> ...
> How about using an equation field?  They're generally not hard to 
> write unless you have things like nested matrices to describe. 
> Mathematicians and their printers have ensured that 'normal' 
> mathematical text is, in general, easy to write and compose.

Tried using an equation field but for some reasons it doesn't seem to 
recognize the misc. keywords that are described in help (\i \su...(), 
\do...(), etc.)

And what's worse: it keeps crashing on me. Whenever I click on the field 
to edit it Word immediately dies. Too bad that Word is so buggy...

Michael

This is not normal. Possibly the document is corrupt; possibly the font is
corrupt; possibly Normal.dot is corrupt.

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Michael Moser"  wrote in message
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> "anon k"  wrote in message
> news:nDcYf.8641$%m4.3128@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> > ...
> > How about using an equation field?  They're generally not hard to
> > write unless you have things like nested matrices to describe.
> > Mathematicians and their printers have ensured that 'normal'
> > mathematical text is, in general, easy to write and compose.
>
> Tried using an equation field but for some reasons it doesn't seem to
> recognize the misc. keywords that are described in help (\i \su...(),
> \do...(), etc.)
>
> And what's worse: it keeps crashing on me. Whenever I click on the field
> to edit it Word immediately dies. Too bad that Word is so buggy...
>
> Michael
>

"Suzanne S. Barnhill"  wrote in message 
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> This is not normal. Possibly the document is corrupt; possibly the 
> font is
> corrupt; possibly Normal.dot is corrupt.

Well, maybe, possible. But if I have learned something after all thoese 
year using word then this: Alas, this *is* normal. Esp. the fact, that 
word keeps corrupting documents and templates, *is* "normal"! But that's 
a different story. :-(

Michael

FWIW, in 14 years of using (almost) every version of Word since Word 2.0, I
have *never* had a corrupted Normal.dot. I think I did have a corrupted Data
key *once* (another time that I thought that was the problem, it turned out
that the problem was actually caused by an add-in). And the only corrupted
documents I've ever seen were once I got from others (usually converted from
WordPerfect).

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
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"Michael Moser"  wrote in message
news:O36A6LOXGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill"  wrote in message
> news:%23ZvU7jKXGHA.1348@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > This is not normal. Possibly the document is corrupt; possibly the
> > font is
> > corrupt; possibly Normal.dot is corrupt.
>
> Well, maybe, possible. But if I have learned something after all thoese
> year using word then this: Alas, this *is* normal. Esp. the fact, that
> word keeps corrupting documents and templates, *is* "normal"! But that's
> a different story. :-(
>
> Michael
>

Michael Moser wrote:
> "anon k"  wrote in message 
> news:nDcYf.8641$%m4.3128@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> 
>> ...
>> How about using an equation field?  They're generally not hard to 
>> write unless you have things like nested matrices to describe. 
>> Mathematicians and their printers have ensured that 'normal' 
>> mathematical text is, in general, easy to write and compose.
> 
> 
> Tried using an equation field but for some reasons it doesn't seem to 
> recognize the misc. keywords that are described in help (\i \su...(), 
> \do...(), etc.)
> 
> And what's worse: it keeps crashing on me. Whenever I click on the field 
> to edit it Word immediately dies. Too bad that Word is so buggy...

I've had only one problem with equation fields: they are sometimes very 
sensitive to spaces in the formula.  When I'm editing, a missed space 
sometimes leads the field to collapse into some non-printing state. 
Expanding it out and finding the spot that's missing its space fixes 
that.  Just why this is, I still don't know.

Well - lucky you then!

I am able to create and edit an equation field in a newly created, empty 
document, but not in the one, I am currently working on.
A I said - I never managed to work on a file over a longer period and 
have it NOT corrupted. Not that I am doing strange things to it, but 
occasionally word simply crashes (e.g. when moving images around or 
editing formulas) and I guess, that then leaves me with recovered and - 
presumably - corrupted files. Are there any tools to "decorrupt" a file? 
Because, clearly, starting over is NOT an option!

Michael


"Suzanne S. Barnhill"  wrote in message 
news:%23B2yubOXGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> FWIW, in 14 years of using (almost) every version of Word since Word 
> 2.0, I
> have *never* had a corrupted Normal.dot. I think I did have a 
> corrupted Data
> key *once* (another time that I thought that was the problem, it 
> turned out
> that the problem was actually caused by an add-in). And the only 
> corrupted
> documents I've ever seen were once I got from others (usually 
> converted from
> WordPerfect).

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. See also
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Michael Moser"  wrote in message
news:%23oI$4eUXGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Well - lucky you then!
>
> I am able to create and edit an equation field in a newly created, empty
> document, but not in the one, I am currently working on.
> A I said - I never managed to work on a file over a longer period and
> have it NOT corrupted. Not that I am doing strange things to it, but
> occasionally word simply crashes (e.g. when moving images around or
> editing formulas) and I guess, that then leaves me with recovered and -
> presumably - corrupted files. Are there any tools to "decorrupt" a file?
> Because, clearly, starting over is NOT an option!
>
> Michael
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill"  wrote in message
> news:%23B2yubOXGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > FWIW, in 14 years of using (almost) every version of Word since Word
> > 2.0, I
> > have *never* had a corrupted Normal.dot. I think I did have a
> > corrupted Data
> > key *once* (another time that I thought that was the problem, it
> > turned out
> > that the problem was actually caused by an add-in). And the only
> > corrupted
> > documents I've ever seen were once I got from others (usually
> > converted from
> > WordPerfect).
>

"Suzanne S. Barnhill"  wrote in message 
news:O1hG3lWXGHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. See also
> http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm

Thanks - good stuff! Seems, that I'm not the only one whose docs get 
corrupted now and then... :-)

Michael