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date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:36:00 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics        back       


Stop those flying photos!   
Speaking of flying, I'm about ready to send Ms. Barnhill a ticket to come and 
show me what to do.  This is exasperating.

I'm working on an instruction manual that utilizes a 2-column table for 
side-to-side display of main points and their detailed explanations.  But the 
second paragraph of any of these points is not necessarily in the table 
format.  I created a paragraph style that simply indents the non-table 
paragraph so it looks like the one in the table that immediately preceded it. 
 (This was mainly to have widow and orphan control, which does not work in 
tables.)

This all works well, and I've been doing it for years now, but have one heck 
of a time inserting photos in the document.  This is something that is needed 
more and more.  Some photos will be inside the right-hand table column, some 
of them not.  Trouble is, I pull a photo in and it sometimes flies off the 
page completely.  Then I have to go find it, maybe on the next page or a 
couple back, drag it back, and continue to fight to get it to stay put where 
I want it.

Is there some sort of tutorial for: Format Picture/Layout, telling just what 
Lock anchor, Move object with text, Allow overlap and Layout in table cell 
really mean?  I can usually get the photo to stay put by turning these 
various options on or off, but the final settings don't always agree with 
what I intended or, indeed, what is happening.  I need a class!  Many thanks.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:36:00 -0700   author:   Jim

Re: Stop those flying photos!   
If you can work out a way to insert the photos as In Line With Text, then 
they won't fly because they'll be in ordinary text paragraphs. If you're 
putting the photos in table cells, then that's absolutely the only sensible 
thing to do unless you're actually trying to wrap text *around* them (if you 
just need text beside or above or below them, then this can be handled with 
ordinary table cells).

I hope Bob Buckland or someone else knowledgeable will come along, though, 
and explain all those terms that apply to wrapped graphics because I don't 
understand them, either!

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Jim"  wrote in message 
news:6A580A9E-A4A4-41D1-ADF7-AC3FD29CB890@microsoft.com...
> Speaking of flying, I'm about ready to send Ms. Barnhill a ticket to come 
> and
> show me what to do.  This is exasperating.
>
> I'm working on an instruction manual that utilizes a 2-column table for
> side-to-side display of main points and their detailed explanations.  But 
> the
> second paragraph of any of these points is not necessarily in the table
> format.  I created a paragraph style that simply indents the non-table
> paragraph so it looks like the one in the table that immediately preceded 
> it.
> (This was mainly to have widow and orphan control, which does not work in
> tables.)
>
> This all works well, and I've been doing it for years now, but have one 
> heck
> of a time inserting photos in the document.  This is something that is 
> needed
> more and more.  Some photos will be inside the right-hand table column, 
> some
> of them not.  Trouble is, I pull a photo in and it sometimes flies off the
> page completely.  Then I have to go find it, maybe on the next page or a
> couple back, drag it back, and continue to fight to get it to stay put 
> where
> I want it.
>
> Is there some sort of tutorial for: Format Picture/Layout, telling just 
> what
> Lock anchor, Move object with text, Allow overlap and Layout in table cell
> really mean?  I can usually get the photo to stay put by turning these
> various options on or off, but the final settings don't always agree with
> what I intended or, indeed, what is happening.  I need a class!  Many 
> thanks.
>
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:30:31 -0500   author:   Suzanne S. Barnhill

Re: Stop those flying photos!   
Many thanks, Suzanne;

Yes, I like to put them inline when I can, but when I need text to the left 
(generally) of the photo, it's nice to just have it 'hang' there, not in a 
table cell, to keep the text flowing properly from one page to the next, etc. 
 As I said, I can usually tame the beast with the proper selection of those 
checked options under Format Picture/Layout/Advanced, but have no idea what 
those boxes do, as they do not seem to behave per their names.  Good to hear 
I'm not alone!  

Have a good day and please continue to provide this great help!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> If you can work out a way to insert the photos as In Line With Text, then 
> they won't fly because they'll be in ordinary text paragraphs. If you're 
> putting the photos in table cells, then that's absolutely the only sensible 
> thing to do unless you're actually trying to wrap text *around* them (if you 
> just need text beside or above or below them, then this can be handled with 
> ordinary table cells).
> 
> I hope Bob Buckland or someone else knowledgeable will come along, though, 
> and explain all those terms that apply to wrapped graphics because I don't 
> understand them, either!
> 
> -- 
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> 
> "Jim"  wrote in message 
> news:6A580A9E-A4A4-41D1-ADF7-AC3FD29CB890@microsoft.com...
> > Speaking of flying, I'm about ready to send Ms. Barnhill a ticket to come 
> > and
> > show me what to do.  This is exasperating.
> >
> > I'm working on an instruction manual that utilizes a 2-column table for
> > side-to-side display of main points and their detailed explanations.  But 
> > the
> > second paragraph of any of these points is not necessarily in the table
> > format.  I created a paragraph style that simply indents the non-table
> > paragraph so it looks like the one in the table that immediately preceded 
> > it.
> > (This was mainly to have widow and orphan control, which does not work in
> > tables.)
> >
> > This all works well, and I've been doing it for years now, but have one 
> > heck
> > of a time inserting photos in the document.  This is something that is 
> > needed
> > more and more.  Some photos will be inside the right-hand table column, 
> > some
> > of them not.  Trouble is, I pull a photo in and it sometimes flies off the
> > page completely.  Then I have to go find it, maybe on the next page or a
> > couple back, drag it back, and continue to fight to get it to stay put 
> > where
> > I want it.
> >
> > Is there some sort of tutorial for: Format Picture/Layout, telling just 
> > what
> > Lock anchor, Move object with text, Allow overlap and Layout in table cell
> > really mean?  I can usually get the photo to stay put by turning these
> > various options on or off, but the final settings don't always agree with
> > what I intended or, indeed, what is happening.  I need a class!  Many 
> > thanks.
> > 
> 
> 
>
date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:51:01 -0700   author:   Jim

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