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date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:30:02 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.word.docmanagement        back       


Autodate in templates   
I have a document template that autofills the date in 2 places, one date 
needs to update everytime the document is opened.  No problem there.  The 
other date needs to autofill the first time a document is created from the 
template and remain static thereafter. I tried insert date with the the 
automatic update turned off and I tried a {CreateDate} field.  Both return 
the date that the template was created, not the date that a doc was created 
using the template.  The {SAVEDATE} field doesn't work, because the doc may 
be edited and saved multiple times after creation.

Any suggestions?  Thanks.
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:30:02 -0700   author:   Drew

Re: Autodate in templates   
The CreateDate field is the one you want, but it does not update 
automatically. You can update it manually or by printing.

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Drew"  wrote in message 
news:283593D1-90C2-4FD5-AD1A-A040A1C69A18@microsoft.com...
>I have a document template that autofills the date in 2 places, one date
> needs to update everytime the document is opened.  No problem there.  The
> other date needs to autofill the first time a document is created from the
> template and remain static thereafter. I tried insert date with the the
> automatic update turned off and I tried a {CreateDate} field.  Both return
> the date that the template was created, not the date that a doc was 
> created
> using the template.  The {SAVEDATE} field doesn't work, because the doc 
> may
> be edited and saved multiple times after creation.
>
> Any suggestions?  Thanks.
>
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:51:56 -0500   author:   Suzanne S. Barnhill

Re: Autodate in templates   
That's so close...
What we wanted to avoid are manual updates.  We want to automate as much of 
the doc as possible.   

So, there is no way for the CreateDate field to poll the system date at the 
time that a Word doc is created from the template without polling it every 
time the doc is opened??

Thanks.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> The CreateDate field is the one you want, but it does not update 
> automatically. You can update it manually or by printing.
> 
> -- 
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> 
> "Drew"  wrote in message 
> news:283593D1-90C2-4FD5-AD1A-A040A1C69A18@microsoft.com...
> >I have a document template that autofills the date in 2 places, one date
> > needs to update everytime the document is opened.  No problem there.  The
> > other date needs to autofill the first time a document is created from the
> > template and remain static thereafter. I tried insert date with the the
> > automatic update turned off and I tried a {CreateDate} field.  Both return
> > the date that the template was created, not the date that a doc was 
> > created
> > using the template.  The {SAVEDATE} field doesn't work, because the doc 
> > may
> > be edited and saved multiple times after creation.
> >
> > Any suggestions?  Thanks.
> > 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:49:21 -0700   author:   Drew

Re: Autodate in templates   
To clarify, the field does update when you print or Print Preview or if you 
update fields generally; it just doesn't update fully automatically. It 
updates to the date of creation, and it never updates thereafter; that's the 
whole point of it.

The CreateDate field in the template will always be the date the template 
was created. The CreateDate field in a document based on the template, 
although it will at first display the creation date of the template, will 
actually *be* the creation date of the document, and this value will be 
displayed when you update fields by printing or any other action that 
updates fields. After that it will not change.

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Drew"  wrote in message 
news:0403AE2C-5703-41C3-ABBF-CCD364FA7EEA@microsoft.com...
> That's so close...
> What we wanted to avoid are manual updates.  We want to automate as much 
> of
> the doc as possible.
>
> So, there is no way for the CreateDate field to poll the system date at 
> the
> time that a Word doc is created from the template without polling it every
> time the doc is opened??
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> The CreateDate field is the one you want, but it does not update
>> automatically. You can update it manually or by printing.
>>
>> -- 
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Drew"  wrote in message
>> news:283593D1-90C2-4FD5-AD1A-A040A1C69A18@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a document template that autofills the date in 2 places, one date
>> > needs to update everytime the document is opened.  No problem there. 
>> > The
>> > other date needs to autofill the first time a document is created from 
>> > the
>> > template and remain static thereafter. I tried insert date with the the
>> > automatic update turned off and I tried a {CreateDate} field.  Both 
>> > return
>> > the date that the template was created, not the date that a doc was
>> > created
>> > using the template.  The {SAVEDATE} field doesn't work, because the doc
>> > may
>> > be edited and saved multiple times after creation.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?  Thanks.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:33:00 -0500   author:   Suzanne S. Barnhill

Re: Autodate in templates   
A CREATEDATE field in a document created from a template that contains such 
a field should always show the date the document was created. I have never 
seen such a document display the template creation date? The template 
however will always show the template creation date. I have to wonder if 
this is a document being re-used as a 'template' rather than a template 
being used with File > New to create a new document? With a true template, 
it would be a simple matter to force the dates to do whatever you want with 
a macro, but I would not recommend the use of macros in a document used as a 
template.

-- 
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor -  Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> To clarify, the field does update when you print or Print Preview or
> if you update fields generally; it just doesn't update fully
> automatically. It updates to the date of creation, and it never
> updates thereafter; that's the whole point of it.
>
> The CreateDate field in the template will always be the date the
> template was created. The CreateDate field in a document based on the
> template, although it will at first display the creation date of the
> template, will actually *be* the creation date of the document, and
> this value will be displayed when you update fields by printing or
> any other action that updates fields. After that it will not change.
>
>
> "Drew"  wrote in message
> news:0403AE2C-5703-41C3-ABBF-CCD364FA7EEA@microsoft.com...
>> That's so close...
>> What we wanted to avoid are manual updates.  We want to automate as
>> much of
>> the doc as possible.
>>
>> So, there is no way for the CreateDate field to poll the system date
>> at the
>> time that a Word doc is created from the template without polling it
>> every time the doc is opened??
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>>
>>> The CreateDate field is the one you want, but it does not update
>>> automatically. You can update it manually or by printing.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> Words into Type
>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>
>>> "Drew"  wrote in message
>>> news:283593D1-90C2-4FD5-AD1A-A040A1C69A18@microsoft.com...
>>>> I have a document template that autofills the date in 2 places,
>>>> one date needs to update everytime the document is opened.  No
>>>> problem there. The
>>>> other date needs to autofill the first time a document is created
>>>> from the
>>>> template and remain static thereafter. I tried insert date with
>>>> the the automatic update turned off and I tried a {CreateDate}
>>>> field.  Both return
>>>> the date that the template was created, not the date that a doc was
>>>> created
>>>> using the template.  The {SAVEDATE} field doesn't work, because
>>>> the doc may
>>>> be edited and saved multiple times after creation.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?  Thanks.
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:13:57 +0300   author:   Graham Mayor

Re: Autodate in templates   
I believe you're right, Graham. I just tested with a couple of my letter 
templates, one with the date in the header and one with the date in the 
body, and both had the correct CreateDate on creation. I do reuse some 
letters (to specific addressess), so that's the issue I'd see there.

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Graham Mayor"  wrote in message 
news:OKglCepKJHA.2760@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>A CREATEDATE field in a document created from a template that contains such 
>a field should always show the date the document was created. I have never 
>seen such a document display the template creation date? The template 
>however will always show the template creation date. I have to wonder if 
>this is a document being re-used as a 'template' rather than a template 
>being used with File > New to create a new document? With a true template, 
>it would be a simple matter to force the dates to do whatever you want with 
>a macro, but I would not recommend the use of macros in a document used as 
>a template.
>
> -- 
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor -  Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
>
> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
>> To clarify, the field does update when you print or Print Preview or
>> if you update fields generally; it just doesn't update fully
>> automatically. It updates to the date of creation, and it never
>> updates thereafter; that's the whole point of it.
>>
>> The CreateDate field in the template will always be the date the
>> template was created. The CreateDate field in a document based on the
>> template, although it will at first display the creation date of the
>> template, will actually *be* the creation date of the document, and
>> this value will be displayed when you update fields by printing or
>> any other action that updates fields. After that it will not change.
>>
>>
>> "Drew"  wrote in message
>> news:0403AE2C-5703-41C3-ABBF-CCD364FA7EEA@microsoft.com...
>>> That's so close...
>>> What we wanted to avoid are manual updates.  We want to automate as
>>> much of
>>> the doc as possible.
>>>
>>> So, there is no way for the CreateDate field to poll the system date
>>> at the
>>> time that a Word doc is created from the template without polling it
>>> every time the doc is opened??
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>>>
>>>> The CreateDate field is the one you want, but it does not update
>>>> automatically. You can update it manually or by printing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>> Words into Type
>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>>
>>>> "Drew"  wrote in message
>>>> news:283593D1-90C2-4FD5-AD1A-A040A1C69A18@microsoft.com...
>>>>> I have a document template that autofills the date in 2 places,
>>>>> one date needs to update everytime the document is opened.  No
>>>>> problem there. The
>>>>> other date needs to autofill the first time a document is created
>>>>> from the
>>>>> template and remain static thereafter. I tried insert date with
>>>>> the the automatic update turned off and I tried a {CreateDate}
>>>>> field.  Both return
>>>>> the date that the template was created, not the date that a doc was
>>>>> created
>>>>> using the template.  The {SAVEDATE} field doesn't work, because
>>>>> the doc may
>>>>> be edited and saved multiple times after creation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?  Thanks.
>
>
>
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:47:25 -0500   author:   Suzanne S. Barnhill

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