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date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:36:11 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.word.conversions        back       


How do I insert a BS (Backspace) into text?   
I know about the alt-zero "extended ASCII" codes, which begin with ? and end 
with .  The alt zero 1  8 2 giving us  as an example.  But how can I 
insert a Backspace?  What if I want to, in effect, overstrike a character?

In TTY code, I believe that a 0x08 is a backspace.

How can I overstrike a character in the text of an e-mail message, or word 
processor text?
date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:36:11 -0700   author:   R.S.Lynn

Re: How do I insert a BS (Backspace) into text?   
I entered alt 0 1 2 8 and got ?.  When I read my message "round trip," the 
Euro symbol was changed to question mark.  How come?

I still want to know about BS.

"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
news:Oy8mit$YHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I know about the alt-zero "extended ASCII" codes, which begin with ? and 
>end with .  The alt zero 1  8 2 giving us  as an example.  But how can I 
>insert a Backspace?  What if I want to, in effect, overstrike a character?
>
> In TTY code, I believe that a 0x08 is a backspace.
>
> How can I overstrike a character in the text of an e-mail message, or word 
> processor text?
>
date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:16:26 -0700   author:   R.S.Lynn

Re: How do I insert a BS (Backspace) into text?   
G'Day R.S.

You have been badly traumatised by TTY text processing.

Word is NOT a printer - it does not process characters left to right in
sequence.

Select the text:
  Format>Font
    Overstrike.
-- 
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
news:Oy8mit$YHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I know about the alt-zero "extended ASCII" codes, which begin with ? and end 
>with .  The alt zero 1  8 2 giving us  as an example.  But how can I insert a 
>Backspace?  What if I want to, in effect, overstrike a character?
>
> In TTY code, I believe that a 0x08 is a backspace.
>
> How can I overstrike a character in the text of an e-mail message, or word 
> processor text?
>
date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:21:50 +1100   author:   Pat Garard apgarard-bigpond:net:au

Re: How do I insert a BS (Backspace) into text?   
My Microsoft Word 2003 does not have the overstrike option, as far as I have 
been able to find.  It does have "strikethrough" which means the same as 
strikeout; draw a line though it.  My WordPerfect does not seem to have an 
Overstrike either.

I became a professional computer programmer in 1960.  In those days, most 
small computers used TTYs as the main input/output devices.  We actually did 
have to use "figure shift" and "letter shift" to output any character set 
larger than 31 members.  (5-level Baudot/Murray code; 2 to the 5th=32)  As 
late as 1965, when I was guest faculty at MIT, using Project MAC (q.v.) 
about half of the terminals were TTYs and half were IBM Selectric 
Typewriter-based.

I am still without knowledge of  how to backspace, or overstrike in the 
modern environment


"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message 
news:OJOdprBZHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> G'Day R.S.
>
> You have been badly traumatised by TTY text processing.
>
> Word is NOT a printer - it does not process characters left to right in
> sequence.
>
> Select the text:
>  Format>Font
>    Overstrike.
> -- 
> Regards,
> Pat Garard
> Melbourne, Australia
> _______________________
>
> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
> news:Oy8mit$YHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I know about the alt-zero "extended ASCII" codes, which begin with ? and 
>>end with .  The alt zero 1  8 2 giving us  as an example.  But how can I 
>>insert a Backspace?  What if I want to, in effect, overstrike a character?
>>
>> In TTY code, I believe that a 0x08 is a backspace.
>>
>> How can I overstrike a character in the text of an e-mail message, or 
>> word processor text?
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:15:50 -0700   author:   R.S.Lynn

Re: How do I insert a BS (Backspace) into text?   
I assume that you want to overstrike one character on top of another. If 
that's the case, the way it's done in Word is using a field code. What you 
want is the advance field, using the \l (left) switch.

For example, with field codes displayed, using 12 point type, the following:

0{advance \l5}/

will type a 0, back up 5 points horizontally, then type a /. Here, using the 
Calibri font, that produces a 0 overstruck with a forward slash (/).

Press Ctrl+F9 to insert the field braces {}, then type advance \l5 between 
the braces, and press F9 to update/resolve the field. (Or, choose Insert - 
Field from the menu)

It likely will take some experimentation to get exactly what you want.  You 
might want to take a look at the Help file for additional information on 
working with the advance field.

-- 
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
news:e1X3dxEZHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> My Microsoft Word 2003 does not have the overstrike option, as far as I 
> have been able to find.  It does have "strikethrough" which means the same 
> as strikeout; draw a line though it.  My WordPerfect does not seem to have 
> an Overstrike either.
>
> I became a professional computer programmer in 1960.  In those days, most 
> small computers used TTYs as the main input/output devices.  We actually 
> did have to use "figure shift" and "letter shift" to output any character 
> set larger than 31 members.  (5-level Baudot/Murray code; 2 to the 5th=32) 
> As late as 1965, when I was guest faculty at MIT, using Project MAC (q.v.) 
> about half of the terminals were TTYs and half were IBM Selectric 
> Typewriter-based.
>
> I am still without knowledge of  how to backspace, or overstrike in the 
> modern environment
>
>
> "Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message 
> news:OJOdprBZHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> G'Day R.S.
>>
>> You have been badly traumatised by TTY text processing.
>>
>> Word is NOT a printer - it does not process characters left to right in
>> sequence.
>>
>> Select the text:
>>  Format>Font
>>    Overstrike.
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Pat Garard
>> Melbourne, Australia
>> _______________________
>>
>> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
>> news:Oy8mit$YHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I know about the alt-zero "extended ASCII" codes, which begin with ? and 
>>>end with .  The alt zero 1  8 2 giving us  as an example.  But how can 
>>>I insert a Backspace?  What if I want to, in effect, overstrike a 
>>>character?
>>>
>>> In TTY code, I believe that a 0x08 is a backspace.
>>>
>>> How can I overstrike a character in the text of an e-mail message, or 
>>> word processor text?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:26:16 -0400   author:   Herb Tyson [MVP]

Re: How do I insert a BS (Backspace) into text?   
G'Day again R.S.

Yes - I got it wrong - strikethrough.

I remember the Daisy Wheel with Ribbon lift for Red, underline by typing
the same line twice, overstrike ..... arghhhhhhhhhhhh.

See Herbs response re Fields, and maybe check out the following:
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm
Good luck!
-- 
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
news:e1X3dxEZHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> My Microsoft Word 2003 does not have the overstrike option, as far as I have 
> been able to find.  It does have "strikethrough" which means the same as 
> strikeout; draw a line though it.  My WordPerfect does not seem to have an 
> Overstrike either.
>
> I became a professional computer programmer in 1960.  In those days, most 
> small computers used TTYs as the main input/output devices.  We actually did 
> have to use "figure shift" and "letter shift" to output any character set 
> larger than 31 members.  (5-level Baudot/Murray code; 2 to the 5th=32)  As 
> late as 1965, when I was guest faculty at MIT, using Project MAC (q.v.) about 
> half of the terminals were TTYs and half were IBM Selectric Typewriter-based.
>
> I am still without knowledge of  how to backspace, or overstrike in the modern 
> environment
>
>
> "Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message 
> news:OJOdprBZHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> G'Day R.S.
>>
>> You have been badly traumatised by TTY text processing.
>>
>> Word is NOT a printer - it does not process characters left to right in
>> sequence.
>>
>> Select the text:
>>  Format>Font
>>    Overstrike.
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Pat Garard
>> Melbourne, Australia
>> _______________________
>>
>> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
>> news:Oy8mit$YHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I know about the alt-zero "extended ASCII" codes, which begin with ? and end 
>>>with .  The alt zero 1  8 2 giving us  as an example.  But how can I insert 
>>>a Backspace?  What if I want to, in effect, overstrike a character?
>>>
>>> In TTY code, I believe that a 0x08 is a backspace.
>>>
>>> How can I overstrike a character in the text of an e-mail message, or word 
>>> processor text?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:12:09 +1100   author:   Pat Garard apgarard-bigpond:net:au

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