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date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:21:13 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.word.conversions        back       


Word 2007 compatibility pack does not interpret custom XML   
Hi,

I made a Word 2007 document with data defined in a customXML part and linked 
inside the document with content controls. This docx opens correctly (showing 
the data from the customXML file correctly) in Word 2007. However, when I try 
to open it on a pc with Word 2003 and the compatibility pack for 2007 
documents installed, the custom xml fields do not appear in the document. It 
simply shows the document as if it is not linked to the custom data at all.

We plan to write software to generate complex customized reports in Word 
2007 using the custom XML feature, but it won't be of much help if the 
compatibility pack does not show it, as all Word 2003 users will be excluded 
from seeing this. 

Does anyone know more about this? Am I doing something wrong?
date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:21:13 -0800   author:   Cornelia

Re: Word 2007 compatibility pack does not interpret custom XML   
I suspect there's no reason /in principle/ why the converter should not 
deliver something that could be /read/ in Word 2003, but that MS has 
focussed on delivering mateiral that is supported by the Word 2003 feature 
set, which obviously doesn't include content controls.

It may be worth your while contacting Microsoft directly (most of the people 
here are just volunteers), but I would take the view that
 a. it's probably not going to happen
 b. if you only need read-only access, presumably that will be possible if 
and when MS releases a Word 2007 Viewer, assuming you can install that 
safely for your Word 2003 users
 c. in theory, you ought to be able to take Word 2007 XML and define your 
own XSLT transform to generate the Word 2003 WordprocessingML that you need. 
Maybe someone knows how to write XSLT of that complexity (and perhaps to an 
XSLT expert it douesn't look complicated at all) but my impression is that 
it would be quite a difficult task.

Sorry to sound negative but you don't have to take my word for it anyway!

Peter Jamieson

"Cornelia"  wrote in message 
news:64D5D9C9-37C8-4E2D-8F4A-DE5A4413AB9F@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I made a Word 2007 document with data defined in a customXML part and 
> linked
> inside the document with content controls. This docx opens correctly 
> (showing
> the data from the customXML file correctly) in Word 2007. However, when I 
> try
> to open it on a pc with Word 2003 and the compatibility pack for 2007
> documents installed, the custom xml fields do not appear in the document. 
> It
> simply shows the document as if it is not linked to the custom data at 
> all.
>
> We plan to write software to generate complex customized reports in Word
> 2007 using the custom XML feature, but it won't be of much help if the
> compatibility pack does not show it, as all Word 2003 users will be 
> excluded
> from seeing this.
>
> Does anyone know more about this? Am I doing something wrong?
date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:50:08 -0000   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: Word 2007 compatibility pack does not interpret custom XML   
Hi Cornelia,

What version of Word 2003 are you using to open the file?  It may not matter when using the compatability pack, but there are two
flavors of Word 2003 when it comes to its own ability to read .XML files.

 Word 2003 standalone & Word 2003 Professional Edition have the ability to use custom schemas.

 Word 2003 Student/Teachers, Standard, Basic and Small Business Edition cannot.

Word 2007 has the capability to save both as .docx and as .xml format.  Have you tested using the .xml file type?

Note, that you may also want to post this in the MS Office XML discussion group using the link below.

=================
  <<"Cornelia"  wrote in message news:64D5D9C9-37C8-4E2D-8F4A-DE5A4413AB9F@microsoft.com...
Hi,

I made a Word 2007 document with data defined in a customXML part and linked
inside the document with content controls. This docx opens correctly (showing
the data from the customXML file correctly) in Word 2007. However, when I try
to open it on a pc with Word 2003 and the compatibility pack for 2007
documents installed, the custom xml fields do not appear in the document. It
simply shows the document as if it is not linked to the custom data at all.

We plan to write software to generate complex customized reports in Word
2007 using the custom XML feature, but it won't be of much help if the
compatibility pack does not show it, as all Word 2003 users will be excluded
from seeing this.

Does anyone know more about this? Am I doing something wrong? <<
-- 
Please let us know if this has helped,

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS
A. Specific newsgroup/discussion group mentioned in this message:
   news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.office.xml
    or via browser:
   http://microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/?dg=microsoft.public.office.xml

B. MS Office Community discussion/newsgroups via Web Browser
    http://microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
   or
    Microsoft hosted newsgroups via Outlook Express/newsreader
    news://msnews.microsoft.com
date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:10:00 -0800   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

Re: Word 2007 compatibility pack does not interpret custom XML   
Hi Bob,

Thanks for this tip. We tried this with Word 2003 Professional Edition. I 
did a very simple test, but saving the docx file as Word 2003 xml seems to 
work! I am not sure if this will help though - surely we will need to use the 
Word API  to implement Save As? 


"Bob   Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Cornelia,
> 
> What version of Word 2003 are you using to open the file?  It may not matter when using the compatability pack, but there are two
> flavors of Word 2003 when it comes to its own ability to read .XML files.
> 
>  Word 2003 standalone & Word 2003 Professional Edition have the ability to use custom schemas.
> 
>  Word 2003 Student/Teachers, Standard, Basic and Small Business Edition cannot.
> 
> Word 2007 has the capability to save both as .docx and as .xml format.  Have you tested using the .xml file type?
> 
> Note, that you may also want to post this in the MS Office XML discussion group using the link below.
> 
> =================
>   <<"Cornelia"  wrote in message news:64D5D9C9-37C8-4E2D-8F4A-DE5A4413AB9F@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> 
> I made a Word 2007 document with data defined in a customXML part and linked
> inside the document with content controls. This docx opens correctly (showing
> the data from the customXML file correctly) in Word 2007. However, when I try
> to open it on a pc with Word 2003 and the compatibility pack for 2007
> documents installed, the custom xml fields do not appear in the document. It
> simply shows the document as if it is not linked to the custom data at all.
> 
> We plan to write software to generate complex customized reports in Word
> 2007 using the custom XML feature, but it won't be of much help if the
> compatibility pack does not show it, as all Word 2003 users will be excluded
> from seeing this.
> 
> Does anyone know more about this? Am I doing something wrong? <<
> -- 
> Please let us know if this has helped,
> 
> Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
> 
>   >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<
> 
> LINKS
> A. Specific newsgroup/discussion group mentioned in this message:
>    news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.office.xml
>     or via browser:
>    http://microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/?dg=microsoft.public.office.xml
> 
> B. MS Office Community discussion/newsgroups via Web Browser
>     http://microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
>    or
>     Microsoft hosted newsgroups via Outlook Express/newsreader
>     news://msnews.microsoft.com
> 
> 
> 
>
date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:57:00 -0800   author:   Cornelia

Re: Word 2007 compatibility pack does not interpret custom XML   
Hi Cornelia,

Unfortunately, Peter is correct, in that the compatiblity pack doesn't retain custom XML in documents.  (It also can't handle Word
template rather than document files).

You may want to followup in the Office XML discussion group (link below) and/or on   http://www.openxmldeveloper.org and in the Word
Programming discussion group on ways to implement a solution that will work in both Word 2007 and Word 2003.
===============
  <<"Cornelia"  wrote in message news:62EF78A2-F97E-45BE-B49A-8CE623B11793@microsoft.com...
Hi Bob,

Thanks for this tip. We tried this with Word 2003 Professional Edition. I
did a very simple test, but saving the docx file as Word 2003 xml seems to
work! I am not sure if this will help though - surely we will need to use the
Word API  to implement Save As?  >>
-- 
Please let us know if this has helped,

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS
A. Specific newsgroup/discussion group mentioned in this message:
   news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.office.xml
    or via browser:
   http://microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/?dg=microsoft.public.office.xml

B. MS Office Community discussion/newsgroups via Web Browser
    http://microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
   or
    Microsoft hosted newsgroups via Outlook Express/newsreader
    news://msnews.microsoft.com
date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 08:01:47 -0800   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

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