Korean Hungul Alphabet   

It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type in the 
Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
Tools/Language/set language/Korean

Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no idea of 
what this feature is supposed to do.

I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?, , , 
etc.

Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is, it 
must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul 
alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe there is 
no such functionality whatsoever.

What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean words.

date: Sat, 27 May 2006 16:35:36 -0700   author:   R.S.Lynn

Re: Korean Hungul Alphabet   

What to do depends on which version of Windows and Word you have. I don't
know the exact details for each combination of versions, and I don't know
anything about Korean, but for example with Windows XP and Word 2003, you
would do the following:
 a. Close any Office applications
 b. in Start|Control Panel|Regional Settings and
Languages|Languages|Details, use Add... to set up Korean as an Input
language. Check "Keyboard/IME," and select Korean, which I think selects a
thing called the Korean Input System (IME 2002). After this keyboard/IME has
been installed, you should be able to select "KO" using the icon in the
taskbar, assumig you have enabled the appropriate options in the dialog box
you were just using
 c. In (e.g.) Start|All Programs|Microsoft Office|Microsoft Office
Tools|Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings
 2003, select Korean as an Input language.
 d. Start Word and click in a new document
 e. In the taskbar, make sure KO is selected. When it is, I see a red/blus
yin/yang symbol which lets you enable the IME, and three other icons related
to Korean text entry.

The IME is described in the following article

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130053/en-us

If you are using Word 2000 or XP, you can download an "onscreen keyboard" 
from the Microsoft web site that may show the correct keycaps. I do not 
think the one built into Windows XP for "accessibility" purposes will do 
that. If you happen to have a Tablet PC, the tablet's onscreen keyboard also 
shows Hangul keycaps, and it is also possible to enter Korean characters by 
drawing them with the tablet pen.

I expect there are also third party onscreen keyboards that may help.

Peter Jamieson

"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
news:eJa7$YegGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type in
> the Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
> Tools/Language/set language/Korean
>
> Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no idea
> of what this feature is supposed to do.
>
> I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?, ,
> , etc.
>
> Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is, it
> must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul
> alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe there
> is no such functionality whatsoever.
>
> What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean words.
>
>

date: Mon, 29 May 2006 11:06:34 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: Korean Hungul Alphabet   

Thank for the reply.  I do have WinXP Pro, and MS Office Word 2003 SP2.  I
did print (hard copy) both the HOWTO . . . IME article 130053, and your 
instructions.
I followed the steps you gave me.  The only languages starting with "K" in
the list I got were Kazach and Kyrgyz (I forget the actual spellings).  I 
backed up and tried again.

THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support 
regarding East Asian Languages.  I checked that and stumbled through some 
steps to the point that now when I go to
Control Panel
Regional and Language Options
Languages (I believe that the check box for "Install files for East Asian 
Languages" must be left checkd)
Details

Then I see the Korean Input System (IME2002) among the Installed services. 
Also, I followed your steps to select Korean as an input language, via 
Microsoft Office Tools.

HOWEVER, when I open a new Word document, I do not know what path to take to 
see the red/blue icon or the abbreviation KO.  Taking the path: 
Tools/language/Set Language I can highlight Korean, but that does not get me 
to where I can use the IME.

I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about. Because 
today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing an IME, I 
need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can you detail the 
baby steps for me?

"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
news:OByiPewgGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> What to do depends on which version of Windows and Word you have. I don't
> know the exact details for each combination of versions, and I don't know
> anything about Korean, but for example with Windows XP and Word 2003, you
> would do the following:
> a. Close any Office applications
> b. in Start|Control Panel|Regional Settings and
> Languages|Languages|Details, use Add... to set up Korean as an Input
> language. Check "Keyboard/IME," and select Korean, which I think selects a
> thing called the Korean Input System (IME 2002). After this keyboard/IME
> has
> been installed, you should be able to select "KO" using the icon in the
> taskbar, assumig you have enabled the appropriate options in the dialog
> box
> you were just using
> c. In (e.g.) Start|All Programs|Microsoft Office|Microsoft Office
> Tools|Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings
> 2003, select Korean as an Input language.
> d. Start Word and click in a new document
> e. In the taskbar, make sure KO is selected. When it is, I see a red/blus
> yin/yang symbol which lets you enable the IME, and three other icons
> related
> to Korean text entry.
>
> The IME is described in the following article
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130053/en-us
>
> If you are using Word 2000 or XP, you can download an "onscreen keyboard"
> from the Microsoft web site that may show the correct keycaps. I do not
> think the one built into Windows XP for "accessibility" purposes will do
> that. If you happen to have a Tablet PC, the tablet's onscreen keyboard
> also shows Hangul keycaps, and it is also possible to enter Korean
> characters by drawing them with the tablet pen.
>
> I expect there are also third party onscreen keyboards that may help.
>
> Peter Jamieson
>
> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
> news:eJa7$YegGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type in
>> the Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
>> Tools/Language/set language/Korean
>>
>> Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no idea
>> of what this feature is supposed to do.
>>
>> I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?, ,
>> , etc.
>>
>> Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is, it
>> must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul
>> alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe there
>> is no such functionality whatsoever.
>>
>> What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean words.
>>
>>
>
>
>

date: Mon, 29 May 2006 16:48:17 -0700   author:   R.S.Lynn

Re: Korean Hungul Alphabet   

I have just started reading what appears to be an excellent web site on this 
subject.

http://www.declan-software.com/korean_ime/korean_ime.htm#XP

I have not completed studying all the information offered through various 
links. But what I have already read is promising.

"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
news:uTFHcp3gGHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank for the reply.  I do have WinXP Pro, and MS Office Word 2003 SP2.  I
> did print (hard copy) both the HOWTO . . . IME article 130053, and your 
> instructions.
> I followed the steps you gave me.  The only languages starting with "K" in
> the list I got were Kazach and Kyrgyz (I forget the actual spellings).  I 
> backed up and tried again.
>
> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support 
> regarding East Asian Languages.  I checked that and stumbled through some 
> steps to the point that now when I go to
> Control Panel
> Regional and Language Options
> Languages (I believe that the check box for "Install files for East Asian 
> Languages" must be left checkd)
> Details
>
> Then I see the Korean Input System (IME2002) among the Installed services. 
> Also, I followed your steps to select Korean as an input language, via 
> Microsoft Office Tools.
>
> HOWEVER, when I open a new Word document, I do not know what path to take 
> to see the red/blue icon or the abbreviation KO.  Taking the path: 
> Tools/language/Set Language I can highlight Korean, but that does not get 
> me to where I can use the IME.
>
> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about. 
> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing 
> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can you 
> detail the baby steps for me?
>
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
> news:OByiPewgGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What to do depends on which version of Windows and Word you have. I don't
>> know the exact details for each combination of versions, and I don't know
>> anything about Korean, but for example with Windows XP and Word 2003, you
>> would do the following:
>> a. Close any Office applications
>> b. in Start|Control Panel|Regional Settings and
>> Languages|Languages|Details, use Add... to set up Korean as an Input
>> language. Check "Keyboard/IME," and select Korean, which I think selects 
>> a
>> thing called the Korean Input System (IME 2002). After this keyboard/IME
>> has
>> been installed, you should be able to select "KO" using the icon in the
>> taskbar, assumig you have enabled the appropriate options in the dialog
>> box
>> you were just using
>> c. In (e.g.) Start|All Programs|Microsoft Office|Microsoft Office
>> Tools|Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings
>> 2003, select Korean as an Input language.
>> d. Start Word and click in a new document
>> e. In the taskbar, make sure KO is selected. When it is, I see a red/blus
>> yin/yang symbol which lets you enable the IME, and three other icons
>> related
>> to Korean text entry.
>>
>> The IME is described in the following article
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130053/en-us
>>
>> If you are using Word 2000 or XP, you can download an "onscreen keyboard"
>> from the Microsoft web site that may show the correct keycaps. I do not
>> think the one built into Windows XP for "accessibility" purposes will do
>> that. If you happen to have a Tablet PC, the tablet's onscreen keyboard
>> also shows Hangul keycaps, and it is also possible to enter Korean
>> characters by drawing them with the tablet pen.
>>
>> I expect there are also third party onscreen keyboards that may help.
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>>
>> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
>> news:eJa7$YegGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type in
>>> the Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
>>> Tools/Language/set language/Korean
>>>
>>> Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no idea
>>> of what this feature is supposed to do.
>>>
>>> I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?, 
>>> ,
>>> , etc.
>>>
>>> Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is, 
>>> it
>>> must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul
>>> alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe 
>>> there
>>> is no such functionality whatsoever.
>>>
>>> What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean words.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:51:11 -0700   author:   R.S.Lynn

Re: Korean Hungul Alphabet   

> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support 
> regarding East Asian Languages.

Well spotted - I had forgotten about that.

> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about. 
> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing 
> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can you 
> detail the baby steps for me?

Here's my best shot:
 1. The Tools|Language setting in Word is primarily there to let you 
identify that a certain part of your document is in Korean (or whatever) in 
order to allow Word's proofing tools (spelling and grammar checking) to 
check the right language. Setting a paragraph's language to Korean does not 
mean that any typing you do in it will use the Korean IME.
 2. To switch input languages/IMEs, first look in Control Panel|Regional and 
Language options|Languages|Details. First look at the Settings tab. The Key 
Settings button lets you see, and change, which keyboard keys you can use to 
switch between input languages. Personally, I prefer to use the other method 
which is to click Language Bar and check everything on there. In the 
Advanced tab of the Details pane, you should probably ensure that the first 
checkbox "Extend support of advanced text services to all programs" is 
checked, and that the other box is unchecked.
 3. When you have applied those settings, you should see the language bar 
somewhere on the screen - ininitially, it will probably be minimised in the 
taskbar at the bottom right. The first icon in the language bar is the 
language code, e.g. EN for all the different versions of English, KO for 
Korean. After that, what icons you see depends on which language you select 
and what "language services" have been installed for that language. For 
example, here when I select Korean, I see
  Korean Input System (IME 2002)
  Han/Eng toggle
  Hanja conversion
  Invoke IME pad
  Help
  A tiny "Restore" icon with an Options icon underneath
When I select Englash (any version) I see
  Microphone (for speech-to-text)
  Speak text
  Speech tools
  Help
  A tiny "Restore" icon with an Options icon underneath

If you installed a Korean speech-to-text facility (I have no idea whether 
one exists), you would probably see all those icons. Other language 
utilities will generally install one or more icons into this toolbar.

If you click Restore, the language bar will probably relocate to the top of 
the Windows screen and will occupy the title bar of any Windows application 
that happens to be maximised. The bar expands, showing text labels for each 
icon (depending on the settings you specifed in (2)).

If you now click in your Word document and use the language bar to select KO 
(Korean) and start typing, you should see Hangul characters appearing in 
your Word document. They will probably be in the Batang font. Word's Format 
dialogs should now show more options that let you set the font for "Latin 
text" and "Asian text" to be different. I'd have a look through the 
Format|Paragraph dialog as well, looking for new tabs and options. You will 
also see extra "Distribute" and "Line spacing" icons on the formatting 
toolbar.

However, I cannot tell you how exactly to type using the Hangul-enabled 
keyboard, because I do not know how the Hangul writing system works. You wil 
probably find that different characters appear for unshifted and shifted 
keys, and you will probably need to find and print some keycaps diagrams.

I hope that' covers the basics, anyway.

Peter Jamieson


"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message 
news:uTFHcp3gGHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank for the reply.  I do have WinXP Pro, and MS Office Word 2003 SP2.  I
> did print (hard copy) both the HOWTO . . . IME article 130053, and your 
> instructions.
> I followed the steps you gave me.  The only languages starting with "K" in
> the list I got were Kazach and Kyrgyz (I forget the actual spellings).  I 
> backed up and tried again.
>
> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support 
> regarding East Asian Languages.  I checked that and stumbled through some 
> steps to the point that now when I go to
> Control Panel
> Regional and Language Options
> Languages (I believe that the check box for "Install files for East Asian 
> Languages" must be left checkd)
> Details
>
> Then I see the Korean Input System (IME2002) among the Installed services. 
> Also, I followed your steps to select Korean as an input language, via 
> Microsoft Office Tools.
>
> HOWEVER, when I open a new Word document, I do not know what path to take 
> to see the red/blue icon or the abbreviation KO.  Taking the path: 
> Tools/language/Set Language I can highlight Korean, but that does not get 
> me to where I can use the IME.
>
> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about. 
> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing 
> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can you 
> detail the baby steps for me?
>
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
> news:OByiPewgGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What to do depends on which version of Windows and Word you have. I don't
>> know the exact details for each combination of versions, and I don't know
>> anything about Korean, but for example with Windows XP and Word 2003, you
>> would do the following:
>> a. Close any Office applications
>> b. in Start|Control Panel|Regional Settings and
>> Languages|Languages|Details, use Add... to set up Korean as an Input
>> language. Check "Keyboard/IME," and select Korean, which I think selects 
>> a
>> thing called the Korean Input System (IME 2002). After this keyboard/IME
>> has
>> been installed, you should be able to select "KO" using the icon in the
>> taskbar, assumig you have enabled the appropriate options in the dialog
>> box
>> you were just using
>> c. In (e.g.) Start|All Programs|Microsoft Office|Microsoft Office
>> Tools|Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings
>> 2003, select Korean as an Input language.
>> d. Start Word and click in a new document
>> e. In the taskbar, make sure KO is selected. When it is, I see a red/blus
>> yin/yang symbol which lets you enable the IME, and three other icons
>> related
>> to Korean text entry.
>>
>> The IME is described in the following article
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130053/en-us
>>
>> If you are using Word 2000 or XP, you can download an "onscreen keyboard"
>> from the Microsoft web site that may show the correct keycaps. I do not
>> think the one built into Windows XP for "accessibility" purposes will do
>> that. If you happen to have a Tablet PC, the tablet's onscreen keyboard
>> also shows Hangul keycaps, and it is also possible to enter Korean
>> characters by drawing them with the tablet pen.
>>
>> I expect there are also third party onscreen keyboards that may help.
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>>
>> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
>> news:eJa7$YegGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type in
>>> the Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
>>> Tools/Language/set language/Korean
>>>
>>> Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no idea
>>> of what this feature is supposed to do.
>>>
>>> I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?, 
>>> ,
>>> , etc.
>>>
>>> Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is, 
>>> it
>>> must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul
>>> alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe 
>>> there
>>> is no such functionality whatsoever.
>>>
>>> What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean words.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:15:17 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson

Re: Korean Hungul Alphabet   

Hi Peter,

The Hangul alphabet started as a model of efficiency. It has 24 symbols, only one pronunciation each if I recall correctly,  with 14
consonants and 10 vowels formed into syllable character sets.
 http://www.omniglot.com/writing/korean.htm
A part of the story that was always interesting to me was the bits about how they came up with the design of the various
shapes/characters/glyphs.

BTW, I don't know if you've seen these three Office downloads that may be of interest. The first one gives you a sort of control
panel to try to cut down the number of places you need to go to check/make all of the settings you mentioned <g>. Number 2 & number
3 go together, but unfortunately are only for European languages :(

1. Office 2003 Add-in: Desktop Language Settings (External)

  http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=CC37E08C-1019-4AE8-A258-0D5412876DEC
 "This download allows you to identify and change language, keyboard, and regional settings for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Office 2003 programs with a single tool. You can compare the settings of these programs and make
changes as appropriate"


2. Office 2003 COM Add-In: International Character Toolbar

  http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D8E70FD2-39A4-4A01-8382-DFE35BCBAC03

"This add-in enables you to insert international characters from 26 languages into Office 2003 programs. You can do this in a single
click without changing your keyboard or language settings in Office 2003. This download can be used with Microsoft Office PowerPoint
2003, Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 (when using Microsoft Office Word 2003 as the editor), and Word 2003."

3. Create Your Own Symbol Sets for the Office 2003 International Character Toolbar Add-In

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/Office2003InternationalCharSet.asp

"Define sets of characters to appear on Office toolbars for quick insertion into documents with the International Character Toolbar
Add-in for Microsoft Office 2003 Editions. Access logically grouped symbols, such as accented characters in European alphabets."

============
  <<"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message news:OyxixH9gGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support
> regarding East Asian Languages.

Well spotted - I had forgotten about that.

> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about.
> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing
> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can you
> detail the baby steps for me?

Here's my best shot:
 1. The Tools|Language setting in Word is primarily there to let you
identify that a certain part of your document is in Korean (or whatever) in
order to allow Word's proofing tools (spelling and grammar checking) to
check the right language. Setting a paragraph's language to Korean does not
mean that any typing you do in it will use the Korean IME.
 2. To switch input languages/IMEs, first look in Control Panel|Regional and
Language options|Languages|Details. First look at the Settings tab. The Key
Settings button lets you see, and change, which keyboard keys you can use to
switch between input languages. Personally, I prefer to use the other method
which is to click Language Bar and check everything on there. In the
Advanced tab of the Details pane, you should probably ensure that the first
checkbox "Extend support of advanced text services to all programs" is
checked, and that the other box is unchecked.
 3. When you have applied those settings, you should see the language bar
somewhere on the screen - ininitially, it will probably be minimised in the
taskbar at the bottom right. The first icon in the language bar is the
language code, e.g. EN for all the different versions of English, KO for
Korean. After that, what icons you see depends on which language you select
and what "language services" have been installed for that language. For
example, here when I select Korean, I see
  Korean Input System (IME 2002)
  Han/Eng toggle
  Hanja conversion
  Invoke IME pad
  Help
  A tiny "Restore" icon with an Options icon underneath
When I select Englash (any version) I see
  Microphone (for speech-to-text)
  Speak text
  Speech tools
  Help
  A tiny "Restore" icon with an Options icon underneath

If you installed a Korean speech-to-text facility (I have no idea whether
one exists), you would probably see all those icons. Other language
utilities will generally install one or more icons into this toolbar.

If you click Restore, the language bar will probably relocate to the top of
the Windows screen and will occupy the title bar of any Windows application
that happens to be maximised. The bar expands, showing text labels for each
icon (depending on the settings you specifed in (2)).

If you now click in your Word document and use the language bar to select KO
(Korean) and start typing, you should see Hangul characters appearing in
your Word document. They will probably be in the Batang font. Word's Format
dialogs should now show more options that let you set the font for "Latin
text" and "Asian text" to be different. I'd have a look through the
Format|Paragraph dialog as well, looking for new tabs and options. You will
also see extra "Distribute" and "Line spacing" icons on the formatting
toolbar.

However, I cannot tell you how exactly to type using the Hangul-enabled
keyboard, because I do not know how the Hangul writing system works. You wil
probably find that different characters appear for unshifted and shifted
keys, and you will probably need to find and print some keycaps diagrams.

I hope that' covers the basics, anyway.

Peter Jamieson>>
-- 
I hope this helped you,

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

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"R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
news:uTFHcp3gGHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank for the reply.  I do have WinXP Pro, and MS Office Word 2003 SP2.  I
> did print (hard copy) both the HOWTO . . . IME article 130053, and your
> instructions.
> I followed the steps you gave me.  The only languages starting with "K" in
> the list I got were Kazach and Kyrgyz (I forget the actual spellings).  I
> backed up and tried again.
>
> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support
> regarding East Asian Languages.  I checked that and stumbled through some
> steps to the point that now when I go to
> Control Panel
> Regional and Language Options
> Languages (I believe that the check box for "Install files for East Asian
> Languages" must be left checkd)
> Details
>
> Then I see the Korean Input System (IME2002) among the Installed services.
> Also, I followed your steps to select Korean as an input language, via
> Microsoft Office Tools.
>
> HOWEVER, when I open a new Word document, I do not know what path to take
> to see the red/blue icon or the abbreviation KO.  Taking the path:
> Tools/language/Set Language I can highlight Korean, but that does not get
> me to where I can use the IME.
>
> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about.
> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing
> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can you
> detail the baby steps for me?
>
> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
> news:OByiPewgGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What to do depends on which version of Windows and Word you have. I don't
>> know the exact details for each combination of versions, and I don't know
>> anything about Korean, but for example with Windows XP and Word 2003, you
>> would do the following:
>> a. Close any Office applications
>> b. in Start|Control Panel|Regional Settings and
>> Languages|Languages|Details, use Add... to set up Korean as an Input
>> language. Check "Keyboard/IME," and select Korean, which I think selects
>> a
>> thing called the Korean Input System (IME 2002). After this keyboard/IME
>> has
>> been installed, you should be able to select "KO" using the icon in the
>> taskbar, assumig you have enabled the appropriate options in the dialog
>> box
>> you were just using
>> c. In (e.g.) Start|All Programs|Microsoft Office|Microsoft Office
>> Tools|Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings
>> 2003, select Korean as an Input language.
>> d. Start Word and click in a new document
>> e. In the taskbar, make sure KO is selected. When it is, I see a red/blus
>> yin/yang symbol which lets you enable the IME, and three other icons
>> related
>> to Korean text entry.
>>
>> The IME is described in the following article
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130053/en-us
>>
>> If you are using Word 2000 or XP, you can download an "onscreen keyboard"
>> from the Microsoft web site that may show the correct keycaps. I do not
>> think the one built into Windows XP for "accessibility" purposes will do
>> that. If you happen to have a Tablet PC, the tablet's onscreen keyboard
>> also shows Hangul keycaps, and it is also possible to enter Korean
>> characters by drawing them with the tablet pen.
>>
>> I expect there are also third party onscreen keyboards that may help.
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>>
>> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
>> news:eJa7$YegGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type in
>>> the Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
>>> Tools/Language/set language/Korean
>>>
>>> Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no idea
>>> of what this feature is supposed to do.
>>>
>>> I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?,
>>> ,
>>> , etc.
>>>
>>> Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is,
>>> it
>>> must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul
>>> alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe
>>> there
>>> is no such functionality whatsoever.
>>>
>>> What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean words.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

date: Wed, 31 May 2006 01:34:10 -0700   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

Re: Korean Hungul Alphabet   

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the info. re Hangul.

I had seen the utilities you mentioned but only tried the international 
character toolbar.

What interests me slightly more is the visual on-screen keyboard that shows 
keycaps appropriate to the currently selected keyboard layout - I could have 
sworn MS used to have one for Windows in general, but the only one I can 
find now is the Office 2002 visual keyboard which does not work with Office 
2003. The tablet PC onscreen keyboard does the same job (and more) but of 
course is limited to tablet users. The visual keyboard you can enable from 
the "Accessibility options" doesn't have this facility, but I'm wondering 
whether MS has another one, e.g. with the MUI version of Windows or 
something.

Peter Jamieson

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote 
in message news:uboibvIhGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi Peter,
>
> The Hangul alphabet started as a model of efficiency. It has 24 symbols, 
> only one pronunciation each if I recall correctly,  with 14
> consonants and 10 vowels formed into syllable character sets.
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/korean.htm
> A part of the story that was always interesting to me was the bits about 
> how they came up with the design of the various
> shapes/characters/glyphs.
>
> BTW, I don't know if you've seen these three Office downloads that may be 
> of interest. The first one gives you a sort of control
> panel to try to cut down the number of places you need to go to check/make 
> all of the settings you mentioned <g>. Number 2 & number
> 3 go together, but unfortunately are only for European languages :(
>
> 1. Office 2003 Add-in: Desktop Language Settings (External)
>
> 
> http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=CC37E08C-1019-4AE8-A258-0D5412876DEC
> "This download allows you to identify and change language, keyboard, and 
> regional settings for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
> Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Office 2003 programs with a single tool. 
> You can compare the settings of these programs and make
> changes as appropriate"
>
>
> 2. Office 2003 COM Add-In: International Character Toolbar
>
> 
> http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D8E70FD2-39A4-4A01-8382-DFE35BCBAC03
>
> "This add-in enables you to insert international characters from 26 
> languages into Office 2003 programs. You can do this in a single
> click without changing your keyboard or language settings in Office 2003. 
> This download can be used with Microsoft Office PowerPoint
> 2003, Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 (when using Microsoft Office Word 2003 
> as the editor), and Word 2003."
>
> 3. Create Your Own Symbol Sets for the Office 2003 International Character 
> Toolbar Add-In
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/Office2003InternationalCharSet.asp
>
> "Define sets of characters to appear on Office toolbars for quick 
> insertion into documents with the International Character Toolbar
> Add-in for Microsoft Office 2003 Editions. Access logically grouped 
> symbols, such as accented characters in European alphabets."
>
> ============
>  <<"Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message 
> news:OyxixH9gGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support
>> regarding East Asian Languages.
>
> Well spotted - I had forgotten about that.
>
>> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about.
>> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing
>> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can 
>> you
>> detail the baby steps for me?
>
> Here's my best shot:
> 1. The Tools|Language setting in Word is primarily there to let you
> identify that a certain part of your document is in Korean (or whatever) 
> in
> order to allow Word's proofing tools (spelling and grammar checking) to
> check the right language. Setting a paragraph's language to Korean does 
> not
> mean that any typing you do in it will use the Korean IME.
> 2. To switch input languages/IMEs, first look in Control Panel|Regional 
> and
> Language options|Languages|Details. First look at the Settings tab. The 
> Key
> Settings button lets you see, and change, which keyboard keys you can use 
> to
> switch between input languages. Personally, I prefer to use the other 
> method
> which is to click Language Bar and check everything on there. In the
> Advanced tab of the Details pane, you should probably ensure that the 
> first
> checkbox "Extend support of advanced text services to all programs" is
> checked, and that the other box is unchecked.
> 3. When you have applied those settings, you should see the language bar
> somewhere on the screen - ininitially, it will probably be minimised in 
> the
> taskbar at the bottom right. The first icon in the language bar is the
> language code, e.g. EN for all the different versions of English, KO for
> Korean. After that, what icons you see depends on which language you 
> select
> and what "language services" have been installed for that language. For
> example, here when I select Korean, I see
>  Korean Input System (IME 2002)
>  Han/Eng toggle
>  Hanja conversion
>  Invoke IME pad
>  Help
>  A tiny "Restore" icon with an Options icon underneath
> When I select Englash (any version) I see
>  Microphone (for speech-to-text)
>  Speak text
>  Speech tools
>  Help
>  A tiny "Restore" icon with an Options icon underneath
>
> If you installed a Korean speech-to-text facility (I have no idea whether
> one exists), you would probably see all those icons. Other language
> utilities will generally install one or more icons into this toolbar.
>
> If you click Restore, the language bar will probably relocate to the top 
> of
> the Windows screen and will occupy the title bar of any Windows 
> application
> that happens to be maximised. The bar expands, showing text labels for 
> each
> icon (depending on the settings you specifed in (2)).
>
> If you now click in your Word document and use the language bar to select 
> KO
> (Korean) and start typing, you should see Hangul characters appearing in
> your Word document. They will probably be in the Batang font. Word's 
> Format
> dialogs should now show more options that let you set the font for "Latin
> text" and "Asian text" to be different. I'd have a look through the
> Format|Paragraph dialog as well, looking for new tabs and options. You 
> will
> also see extra "Distribute" and "Line spacing" icons on the formatting
> toolbar.
>
> However, I cannot tell you how exactly to type using the Hangul-enabled
> keyboard, because I do not know how the Hangul writing system works. You 
> wil
> probably find that different characters appear for unshifted and shifted
> keys, and you will probably need to find and print some keycaps diagrams.
>
> I hope that' covers the basics, anyway.
>
> Peter Jamieson>>
> -- 
> I hope this helped you,
>
> Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
>  >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<
>
> Read about it, try it, or watch the movie :)
> the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
>  http://microsoft.com/office/preview
>
> Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
> Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
>  http://sas.office.microsoft.com/
>
>
>
>
> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
> news:uTFHcp3gGHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thank for the reply.  I do have WinXP Pro, and MS Office Word 2003 SP2. 
>> I
>> did print (hard copy) both the HOWTO . . . IME article 130053, and your
>> instructions.
>> I followed the steps you gave me.  The only languages starting with "K" 
>> in
>> the list I got were Kazach and Kyrgyz (I forget the actual spellings).  I
>> backed up and tried again.
>>
>> THIS time, I noticed the check box in  Supplemental Language Support
>> regarding East Asian Languages.  I checked that and stumbled through some
>> steps to the point that now when I go to
>> Control Panel
>> Regional and Language Options
>> Languages (I believe that the check box for "Install files for East Asian
>> Languages" must be left checkd)
>> Details
>>
>> Then I see the Korean Input System (IME2002) among the Installed 
>> services.
>> Also, I followed your steps to select Korean as an input language, via
>> Microsoft Office Tools.
>>
>> HOWEVER, when I open a new Word document, I do not know what path to take
>> to see the red/blue icon or the abbreviation KO.  Taking the path:
>> Tools/language/Set Language I can highlight Korean, but that does not get
>> me to where I can use the IME.
>>
>> I presume that there are some vital steps that I do not know about.
>> Because today is the first time tht I have tried anything like installing
>> an IME, I need to know even the tiniest baby steps along the way.  Can 
>> you
>> detail the baby steps for me?
>>
>> "Peter Jamieson"  wrote in message
>> news:OByiPewgGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> What to do depends on which version of Windows and Word you have. I 
>>> don't
>>> know the exact details for each combination of versions, and I don't 
>>> know
>>> anything about Korean, but for example with Windows XP and Word 2003, 
>>> you
>>> would do the following:
>>> a. Close any Office applications
>>> b. in Start|Control Panel|Regional Settings and
>>> Languages|Languages|Details, use Add... to set up Korean as an Input
>>> language. Check "Keyboard/IME," and select Korean, which I think selects
>>> a
>>> thing called the Korean Input System (IME 2002). After this keyboard/IME
>>> has
>>> been installed, you should be able to select "KO" using the icon in the
>>> taskbar, assumig you have enabled the appropriate options in the dialog
>>> box
>>> you were just using
>>> c. In (e.g.) Start|All Programs|Microsoft Office|Microsoft Office
>>> Tools|Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings
>>> 2003, select Korean as an Input language.
>>> d. Start Word and click in a new document
>>> e. In the taskbar, make sure KO is selected. When it is, I see a 
>>> red/blus
>>> yin/yang symbol which lets you enable the IME, and three other icons
>>> related
>>> to Korean text entry.
>>>
>>> The IME is described in the following article
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130053/en-us
>>>
>>> If you are using Word 2000 or XP, you can download an "onscreen 
>>> keyboard"
>>> from the Microsoft web site that may show the correct keycaps. I do not
>>> think the one built into Windows XP for "accessibility" purposes will do
>>> that. If you happen to have a Tablet PC, the tablet's onscreen keyboard
>>> also shows Hangul keycaps, and it is also possible to enter Korean
>>> characters by drawing them with the tablet pen.
>>>
>>> I expect there are also third party onscreen keyboards that may help.
>>>
>>> Peter Jamieson
>>>
>>> "R.S.Lynn"  wrote in message
>>> news:eJa7$YegGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> It was suggested to me, by a nonexpert, that I should be able to type 
>>>> in
>>>> the Hangul (Korean) alphabet by:
>>>> Tools/Language/set language/Korean
>>>>
>>>> Well, that is not how it works, of course.  We tried it, and had no 
>>>> idea
>>>> of what this feature is supposed to do.
>>>>
>>>> I know how to use the alt-zero keys to get extended ASCII.  Such as ?,
>>>> ,
>>>> , etc.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way, in Word, to get nonRoman alphabet fonts?  If there is,
>>>> it
>>>> must use something like the alt-zero method and a mapping of the Hangul
>>>> alphabetic letters to the QWERTY keyboard in some manner.  Or maybe
>>>> there
>>>> is no such functionality whatsoever.
>>>>
>>>> What I want to do is type the Hangul transliteration of nonKorean 
>>>> words.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:39:47 +0100   author:   Peter Jamieson